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Alaska's MD-80's  
User currently offlineFlyingBanker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3287 times:

I was wondering if anyone knows if there has been any talk of the retirement of Alaska's MD-80's. Also, are they safe aircraft? I think they have been around for quite some time. I am considering flying with AS to OAK next month, it is on an MD-80. I mainly ask this because I have not flown on an AS MD-80 since there was that accident off the coast of California. I am sure my concern is somewhat silly and deep down I know I will be safe. But does anyone out their have any assurances. ANY INFO APPRECIATED...THANKS!

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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13560 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3252 times:
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All MD-80 aircraft are perfectly safe. AS is phasing them out over the next few years as they transition to an all-737 fleet, but they will be around for awhile.

After the accident in 2000, AS completely revamped their maintenance and safety practices, drastically expanding these departments. Alaska's maintenance standards are exceptionally high.

The MD-80 itself is a fine aircraft, with well over 1,000 in service..nearly 300 at American Airlines alone!

Don't worry...you're in good hands on an Alaska Airlines MD-80.

Regards,

RB



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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3236 times:

I really dig the MD-80s at Alaska. I've taken them on short hops only, PDX-OAK, but if you are the middle or front, it's dead quiet. On T/O, you just hear a rush of air, and a nice push into the seat, no roar.

And yes, they are perfeclty safe.

George



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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3230 times:

Well Fliying, it is kinda silly, but I don't hold it against you. Our MD-80's are safer then ever after the incident. We have had multiple white glove inspections by the FAA with no warning and have passed with flying colors. The MD80 will be around for a few more year since we have such a cheap lease rate on them. As of today, Nov. 11th we have 27 in our fleet. Alll very safe my friend. Anymore questions, just ask!
ASSFO



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User currently offlineAgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Sorry if this is off-topic, but I thought I might as well ask...

Now that Alaska is down to 27 MD-80s (compared to 40 734s), does it makes sense to have the MD-80s so "spread out" throughout their system? Currently MD-80s currently serve all four of Alaska's hubs (SEA, PDX, LAX and ANC). For scheduling purposes (I assume), AS has usually served most routes with a mix of 734s and MD-80s (with 73Gs and 739s coming on the line in recent years). But, with the number of MD-80s dwindling, perhaps AS might consider consolidating them to just SEA and LAX

At an airport such as PDX, they currently have three aircraft types...MD-80, 734, and 73G. Why not make it two? After all, AS only sees about 40 departures daily out of PDX (they don't even have a pilot base), and the MD-80 and 734 have basically the same seating capacity. It seems AS could improve operational reliability and streamline line maintenance out of PDX if they would stick to flying 734s and 73Gs in/out.

As far as ANC is concerned, they only receive a few MD-80s at this point anyway, and since the MD-80s are more prone to icing than the 737s, I can't see the point in continuing to fly MD-80s SEA-ANC-FAI during the winter. Again, just one less aircraft type to deal with.

Just my two cents. Maybe someone more knowledgeable with AS than I am could comment...


User currently offlineAirbrasil From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3094 times:

I have flown many times on Alaska on the PDX-LAS, PDX-PHX routes on the MD-80 and unless if you are sitting ont he rear cabin, it is a very confortable and quiet plane. I think Alaska's customer service and in-flight service should be experienced by all of us aviation enthusiasts... Daniel

User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

MD80'd are fine. Like someone else mentioned, they are nice and quiet since the distance between you and the engines is most likely far. Most AS MD80's were built in the late 80's to early 90's, so they are not old.


Heia Norge!
User currently offlineAASTEW From Dominican Republic, joined Oct 2001, 447 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

I don't understand why people think that the MD-80 is all that old. Look at the 727 and 737.

The wonderful and gracious MD-80 started in 1979. The MD-80 has a long way to go!

AALGASTEW


User currently offlineRayBolt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

I spoke with an Alaska captain a few weeks ago and was told that the MD80s would be phased out shortly. He said that they would be phased out sooner if some of them weren't fairly new.
Dan



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User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

The wonderful and gracious MD-80 started in 1979. The MD-80 has a long way to go!

And they were produced well into the 1990s, so we should be seeing them for many years to come.


User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3761 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2818 times:
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Oh yes the MD-80 is a nice aircraft to fly on as passenger, it's not that old and like you say you are most likely to be seated away from the engines. The aircraft rises quickly and quietly. It's a pleasant experience to fly on one. I was also curious what Alaska would do with their MD-80's when I saw the topic, when they would be phased out and on what routes they were still flown, I would look for an MD-80 if I were flying Alaska because I like it and it will be phased out sooner than the 737 will. But never mind, I get to fly on a lot of them with American. When I fly on one I always look for a window seat within the first few rows of the passenger cabin.

Ben Soriano
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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

RayBolt-We are phasing them out, but don't expect it to be over night. We have 27 MD80 as off today and we don't have the new planes coming in to replace them. They have 3-4 more years in them at Alaska, unless we place a large quick order for some 737NG. Like many airline we dont have the money for it. We have closed the MD80 pilot base in LAX though and all Mad-Dog pilots are based in Seattle.
ASSFO



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

RE: "MD-80s spread throughout the system". . . I have to add that we've gotten some here at DIA. Nice to see those stretched beauties out here.




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User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

And they were produced well into the 1990s, so we should be seeing them for many years to come.

The MD80's series lived on in the MD87's and MD90's right up until Boeing took over MD. Really, the B717 is just the continuation, and I believe Boeing is kicking around the 717-300, a larger B717.
I just flew on a AS MD80 two weeks ago. As usual a nice flight, but the brakes sure were rough as we came in to the gate. Captain was talking to some engineer about it at the jetway. Time for new brake pads!!



Heia Norge!
User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

i flew on an AS MD80 a few years ago, SEA-ANC-SEA, no complaints there.

CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

I cannot tell you how many times pasengers actually come onboard and think they are on a "new" airplane.

User currently offlineRayBolt From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

AS739X-yeah, shortly wasn't the word i meant to put. Like I said, the captain told me that they were fairly new, and wouldn't be phased out quickly.


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User currently offlineFlyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1878 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Recently flew AS and the F/As commented that they prefer working 737s

User currently offlineSprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

I loved when AS started up SEA-BOI again last March. Both were MD-80s,love the engine sound (from the outside).But they are now both -400s.
Flown many -80s, Alaska,Reno Air,PSA,etc. Love the performance!


User currently offlineSkymileman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Alaska Airlines keeps great maintenance on their entire fleet. They aren't half as old as some of the 727's that were operated for so long. I wouldn't have a second thought in the world about boarding one.

-Lane


User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

How old are Alaska's oldest MD-80s at present? Do they still have any ex-Jet America MD-82s?

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