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User currently offlinePll-lot From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 112 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

I was checking schedules and noticed that all IND service on AA from STL is now on ATRs or Jetstreams. There is no mainline service at all between these two cities anymore. I assume the same is happening at CVG on AA. Is the reduction in service to these cities a part of AA's downsizing at STL? Is STL quickly just becoming a small commuter hub with a few mainline nonstops? Thanks for any and all responses.

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User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Suggest you run a search on this thread topic. It has been discussed every possible way. I've attached one of the more complete threads for you.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1250844/6/




See you up front!
User currently offlineJetboytwa From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 389 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

That really irks me considering that TWA once ran 757s, even the occasional L-1011 Tristar on that route. What a shame!

Ryan


User currently offlineUPSfueler From United States of America, joined May 2003, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

I thought that AA moved the ATRs south after 4184 crashed. I always thought they moved them out of the cold weather because of iceing problems, and STL and IND do get snow.

User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

I thought that AA moved the ATRs south after 4184 crashed. I always thought they moved them out of the cold weather because of iceing problems, and STL and IND do get snow.

This isn't American. This is Trans States Airlines, doing business as American Connection.

All of the American Eagle ATRs are now operated by Executive Airlines under their own operating certificate at Miami and San Juan. This was in order to dodge some scope clause limitations that are no longer a factor... all the ATRs (too many seats to fit under scope) were shipped off to Executive and spun off from the rest of Eagle. The airline was put up for sale, but with no buyers.

All of the ATRs originally went south after the 4184 crash in Roselawn for just the first year or two. Simmons Airlines operated these ATRs and moved them to Dallas, swapping them with their Saabs. Dozens of DFW Saab crews spent the following months in Chicago during what they called the "winter of discontent." Simmons managed to carry out this swap pretty quick. As soon as the ATRs were recertified for operations in wintry conditions, they were returned to Chicago where some remained operating until ORD Eagle went all jet in 2000/2001.


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2073 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Jetboy, you point out that TW once ran 752's between the two cities, they did in a way. The flight was basically a really short stop in STL(like 40 min)and a flight that continued onto SNA.
Here is the fact of the matter with STL-IND. There aren't many O/D pax on this route to justify a mainline A/C on the route anymore, and there are not enough connection opportunities available, so it beats the purpose of using anything bigger than an ATR on the route because well, they can't fill anything bigger. My friend was flying IND-STL-LAX and he said his plane was like 30% full going to STL. However he said the 752 was jam packed Big thumbs up. Hence the fourth flight coming online!


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