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DAL Pulls 777 Service Out Of CVG  
User currently offlineN860DA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 3 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

Delta has pulled B772 service ouf of CVG in favor of B673s for trans-Atlantic flights. Does anybody have the inside scoop on what was behind this move? There was nothing like watching one of those babies rotate off the runway. I will surely miss that all-to-familiar low growl of the Trent 892 engines overhead too.

N860DA

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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

Delta always shuffles equipment around to meet capacity needs at various times throughout the year. I'm sure the 777 will be back at CVG at some point, but the 763's are probably an overall better fit for the market.


Steve in New Orleans


User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

Will that be the case MSYtristar? From JFK almost all the Trans-Atlantic aircraft are 767-300ER's. I like DL but BA has a better deal. Better service in Y class and J class is cheaper with a full reclinable flat bed. Aybody know if this will change, I want to fly DL overseas but their service Trans-Atlantic is not at the top when other offer 777's and 747's with PTV's?


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3964 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4266 times:
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Well then I would suggest flying CO. You still get your onepass miles, and you can still get your private tv!!


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User currently offlineDeltabobo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Well then I would suggest flying CO. You still get your onepass miles, and you can still get your private tv!!

You might get SkyMiles on that flight too, you never know!!!!!



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2642 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4069 times:

This is not to be a surprise.

DL's 7 or 8 777s will be effectively minus 2 for the traditional routes, as 2 a/c will be allocated for the ATL-NRT run, starting January 1. Also, soon a 777 will be on the ATL-LAX route.

This will be good for the CVG-CDG route as AF and DL can both operate their own flights, but having the CVG-FRA on a 777 was awesome, and for a while having a CDG and FRA flight on the 777 - two @ CVG was even better!!

Maybe in 2004 when they take delivery of some more 777, we will see it restored to CVG.

Frankly though, with the new FCO and AMS flights on 763, I am just thrilled for that. That has to be a factor in removing seats to Europe - as with the new flights in May, there will be a great jump with the 2 new routes.

b4real-keeping it real



B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3966 times:

Doesnt DL use B 772s for its JFK-LGW or JFK-CDG or JFK-FRA flights? If not Im surprised, as there is enough demand to warrant the B 772 of theirs plus this aircraft has a superior inflight product than its B 763ERs!!!

User currently offlineSebwhite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3911 times:

Delta does not operate JFK-LGW.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

DL's 7 or 8 777s will be effectively minus 2 for the traditional routes, as 2 a/c will be allocated for the ATL-NRT run, starting January 1.

They currently have a total of 8, and three will be devoted to Asia.




The reason for the pullout was to centralize all remaining 777 ops to Atlanta.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

CVG is gaining two new destinations next year making it one of only a handful of cities that have that many or more transatlantic destinations and by far the smallest city with that many transatlantic flights.
777's aren't needed in the winter and the switch to the 777 for NRT means they need to be more centralized. DL has only 8 large int'l widebodies after Dec 31, by far the lowest of any int'l airline anywhere. Unless the MD-11's come back, until a few more 777's join the fleet, or Delta takes delivery of the 7E7 (probably a good bet), the 767-300ER will be what you'll fly on Delta internationally.


User currently offlineRamerinianAir From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Behramjee, Delta serves on MXP with an MD-11 and soon to be a 772, all the rest have 763ER service.


W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Delta is not taking any deliveries in 2004; they will take delivery of two 777s in 2005.

I don't see DL bringing back 777s to CVG anytime soon if ever. Much more cost effective like ConcordeBoy was saying, by concentrating all 777 crews to ATL. More traffic from there too than CVG on most routes.

The777Man



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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2093 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

As strange as it sounds...it takes 3 a/c to operate the ATL-NRT route daily.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

As strange as it sounds...it takes 3 a/c to operate the ATL-NRT route daily.

It only takes two to complete the route daily

Just that the third Pacific-configured bird will be retained for a spare as well as possible maintenance rotation


User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

AF picked up the slack, now they are flying a A340-300 in daily instead of the A330-200. So it kinda balances out with DL downgrading to a 767-300. I miss the tripple 7 too, but an AF A340-300 is a nice site a CVG too.

Tim


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2893 times:

It only takes two to complete the route daily

Just that the third Pacific-configured bird will be retained for a spare as well as possible maintenance rotation.


ConcordeBoy,
No, the route requires three aircraft. Once the B777 take over ATL-NRT, the third aircraft will do an ATL-LAX turn. An additional aircraft will remain as an operational spare.

BTW, check out the occuptation of the person who made that statement - I wouldn't be arguing with him  Big grin.


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2093 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

Concordeboy, You're wrong. It takes 3. Just do the math.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Concordeboy, You're wrong.

Oh man, say it again! That sounds so good!

(just kidding, ConcordeBoy  Big grin )


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

Just that the third Pacific-configured bird will be retained for a spare
(Reply #13)


ConcordeBoy,
No, the route requires three aircraft. Once the B777 take over ATL-NRT, the third aircraft will do an ATL-LAX turn. An additional aircraft will remain as an operational spare.



IP,
maybe you're getting senile in your old age, but you "corrected" me only to repeat what I'd already said

*slap*  Laugh out loud


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