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Circle To Land Approaches At IAD-EWR  
User currently offlineBistro1200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 337 posts, RR: 3
Posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4370 times:

Interesting approaches due to winds on Thursday...

IAD: ILS to 1R, circle to land rwy 30! I have a friend that did this on a 747-400, take that Kai Tak!

EWR: ILS 22L circle to 29! Saw a Air India 747-400 do this. On radar it looked like he was heading straight for lower manhattan, circled around the Statue of Liberty, and landed on 29.

Amazing! Anyone else experience this?

[Edited 2003-11-14 15:21:55]

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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 3185 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4298 times:
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Ive experienced that same EWR landing approach on a Continental Express ERJ-145XR PIT-EWR. We were lined up for a 22L approach and then at the very last moment turned off and landed on 29. However, the turn/loop was from the other direction, not over the statue.

I once saw a UPS 747-100 land on RWY 29- it made a swoop over the turnpike. It was mighty impressive  Smile

Im flying out of JFK a little bit later, into Buffalo. Hopefully the winds will calm down at JFK and the snow will stop in Buffalo!


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4187 times:

Welcome to winter! =)

The 1R circle to land 30 maneuver at IAD is only used when the wind is too strong to use the 1s (too much of a crosswind component). It's pretty easy to predict when they'll be using that approach. A low tracks north of the area and the backside will bring those strong northwest winds. Some aircraft have a higher crosswind tolerance than others, but you can pretty much count on every aircraft using 30 when they gust above 25-30 knots. It may be fun to watch, but it's chaos for the airlines trying to maintain a schedule. IAD will go into a ground delay program (too much demand for one runway) with delays anywhere from 1 to 3 hours.. it's not pleasant.

Once in a great while, those winds will be strong enough to transport a little surprise... a lake effect snow shower. I've seen it happen twice..

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