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Alitalia To Announce New Long-haul Destinations  
User currently offline777-500ER From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 480 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6120 times:

Alitalia is set to announce its new long haul destinations these days. Most probably these will be the ones:

MXP- SFO
MXP-PVG
FCO-BOS

Michael SFO
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

Let's hope they'll re open SFO soon Smile

User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

I guess it's all with B777's?

User currently offlineAZ From Japan, joined Jul 2003, 82 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5961 times:

I hope so, Unique, 777 have new configuration with new economy and Magnifica Class section.
Some 767 have old Magnifica Class and some have Coral Class which is very bad.

Daniele.

P.S.

Oops, no, MXP-PVG will be 767 !!!!!


[Edited 2003-11-18 17:50:18]

User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

I think that SFO should be operated with 772. Let's hope that now AZ will order also the 773.

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

MXP-SFO returning operated by their ne 772?
Well, they just have to spread some special offers for that flight in Germany and they can count me in for next summer  Smile

Daniel


User currently offlineOdie From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5792 times:

Any news regarding their return to the Australian market?

User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5763 times:

Do you ever think we'll see them in ATL? I know they codeshare with DL but so does AF. There is 4 daily ATL - CDG flights split between AF and DL with 2 a piece. Is it do to a lack of airplanes at Altitalia? or just low demand?


"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33288 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

Do you ever think we'll see them in ATL? I know they codeshare with DL but so does AF. There is 4 daily ATL - CDG flights split between AF and DL with 2 a piece. Is it do to a lack of airplanes at Altitalia? or just low demand?

CDG is a lot more important of a hub to skyTeam than is Milan or Rome, which act more as relievers. Also, the market between Paris and the US is much more significantly larger than that between Italy and the US. Delta's two daily Atlanta-Italy flights are more than plenty to cover demand. If you were to ever see Alitalia in the Atlanta, it would likely be to replace a Delta service. However, I see it as highly unlikely. Alitalia does not have a large long-haul fleet, and even as they recieve new aircraft, thier fleet will still be limited. They are better off expanding to new markets like Shanghai and San Francisco, and letting Delta take care of Atlanta and Cincinnati.



a.
User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

I disagree MAH4546. The routes between the US and Italian airports (Rome FCO, Milan MXP, Venice VCE) are absolutely busy and operated by several airlines and always full. Alitalia is now introducing new flights to the US to offer new direct destinations. Italy can offer basically to the US carriers 2 hubs as FCO and MXP with the add of VCE, while France concentrated everything around CDG.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33288 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5637 times:

The routes between the US and Italian airports (Rome FCO, Milan MXP, Venice VCE) are absolutely busy and operated by several airlines and always full. Alitalia is now introducing new flights to the US to offer new direct destinations. Italy can offer basically to the US carriers 2 hubs as FCO and MXP with the add of VCE, while France concentrated everything around CDG.

When did I ever not say that? Of course routes between Italy and the US are busy, but that does not change the fact that Paris is a much larger market and a much larger hub. There are more daily seats available between Miami and Paris than there are between JFK and either Rome or Milan.

[Edited 2003-11-18 18:39:51]


a.
User currently offlineVCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5606 times:

Paris is a much larger market and a much larger hub.

Sure, if you unify the traffic of MXP and FCO doesn't change respect to CDG  Smile


User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

I could see a daily Alitalia 767 from ATL-MXP. Milan gets pretty heavy traffic from Atlanta, given the size of the Atlanta hub. But I think there are some other markets that will get attention first.



User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6197 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5473 times:

When is this getting announced? Whats the chance of SFO? I have told my co-workers and they are going nuts about the possiblity of them returning.
ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5401 times:

two points:

1) AZ, though having recently placed/received its 777 orders... is still far too short on longhaul fleet for the amount of destinations it has on hiatus to return. As for Italy-USA, it's prefered to stick to the east of the country... where a single aircraft is all that's needed for a daily roundtrip. This makes MXP-SFO/LAX rather unlikely in the near future; particularly since they codeshare via CDG/ATL/JFK as it is.


2) DL and AZ are still competitors in the Atlanta-Italy market (their ATI does not allow revenue share ex-ATL or CVG, same with DL/AF), and therefore though the airline has said it'd like to serve ATL at some point in the future, DL isnt going to just step aside and let two proven flights be taken over



User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6672 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

MXP-PVG was already announced and is open for sale. That will be operated with a 763. MXP-SFO seems to be rumored a lot as is MXP-IAD.

We will see what happens.

The777Man



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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5356 times:

What about MXP-IAD? Or FCO-IAD? I thought I saw in these pages a few months back that Alitalia was considering Dulles.


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6197 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

ConcordeBoy-why would you need to 2 planes for MXP-SFO or LAX? The flight is not that long. All you have to do is rotate it properly in MXP.I think SFO is very likely, the loads where tremendous. The 767 was completely full all the time.
ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

As739x is right.

At the time AZ flew to SFO, they have those properly rotations:

MXP-SFO-MXP (left 10:10 and back in MXP at 12:15) then MXP-BOS-MXP (left 14:20 and back in MXP at 08:25).

So with two planes they could cover SFO and BOS.
But now BOS left MXP in the morning, allowing better connections from Middle East and India.



User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6197 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

So does anyone have the date of the announcements?
ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5086 times:

Anything with the date of the announcemnts? Please given me with their clue?? Thanks!

User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4882 times:

I sure hope the AZ announcement is soon. The year 2004 is looking good for SFO. GF, EK, and EI possibly, and now it looks like AZ.

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