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MD-80 Flying Without A Tailcone?  
User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3122 posts, RR: 14
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3445 times:
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I was just browsing through the database and came across the following interesting photo with a surprisingly low number of hits. What happens when the tailcone falls off your MD-80? How significant an event is this? How often does it happen?

I suppose the answers may be "not much," but it's still an interesting photo.

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Photo © Don Boyd



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User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

Can you say WOOPS! LOL....

User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Was that a "Ready to Evacuate" new feature back then? HEHEHE

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

Jeez, I bet it was incredibly noisy and scary in the back. Oh wait, it was an MD80, it's always like that - how could they tell? And where did the tailcone actually become reunited with the ground?


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

It certainly doesn't happen very often. Other than the MIA photo you posted, I can only recall one other, an Air Canada DC-9 back in the 1980s sometime, up in the NE somewhere. There may be others, but I'm not aware of them.

As far as effects go, I'd imagine that the changed aerodynamics might create some general buffeting or maybe some vibrations felt in the rudder, but I'm sure the pilots here can provide more authortative info....


User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

Can you imagine what the flight attendant sitting on the door back there felt like afterward, LOL...

User currently offlineBromma1968 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

I've read about a SAS DC-9-41 that lost its tailcone in the eighties, but I haven't heard much about simular events. What a horrible thing to get
in your head.

Anders


User currently offlineCessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Seeing that it's in the old colors... I bet a disgruntled employee took it home with him to protest how Frank Lorenzo fired 2/3 of the workers...

...ok, bad joke...

I bet it was replaced with a tail cone from Eastern!

...another bad joke...

Ok, you can throw tomatoes at me!



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User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

I doubt that you could do a revenue flight without the tailcone, but I think it could be ferried without the cone. It is not a part of the pressurized hull, so you can lose it without risking life and limb, and is mostly cosmetic. There is, I believe, a liferaft in there that may fall out!

User currently offlineNwfltattendant From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Beltway.......

In the tailcone of the DC9/MD80, theres a self inflating slide, which deploys as soon as the cone is dropped. HOWEVER. Seeing as there isnt a slide trailing behind in the wind, I would say that the slidepack departed the aircraft along with the tailcone. I will post a picture of such in a few hours.



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

During testing of the MD-80 the first test aircraft made a very hard landing. Not only did the tailcone come off but the entire tail aft of the pressure bulkhead, vertical and horizontal. Evidently the crew misjudged their decent rate.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

LMP737,

Was that the one at YUM with an FAA guy in the left seat? If so, I've heard that a video exists but I've yet to see it...


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Yes I believe it was Yuma, not sure if the FAA was riding along. When I was working for Boeing I saw the video. In slo-mo you see the airframe flex and the tail come off. In normal time it was quite obvious he was coming in to fast. On of the technicians on board thought it was a rough landing but had no idea as to the damage. When he opened the aft door way he looked out onto open sky. Quite a shocker.

User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

I remember watching a movie where the tailcone of a DC-9 (I think) was jetisoned in flight. It was about an airborne bank heist. Great airborne shots of a Lockheed Jetstar in the film as well. I just can't remember the name of it.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

That would have been "Cliffhanger".....

User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

It was probably just a maintenance ferry flight.

User currently offlineAirdude66 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

This is taking down-sizing too far.

Sorry - We lost our ass on take-off!


User currently offlineAndrewuber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Here's another freaky incident that happened in flight - and this one was NOT a ferry!

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Imagine what the pucker factor was on that one while on short final!



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User currently offlineAirdude66 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

This is a great idea for those passengers who say,

I'll never fly this airline again.


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2294 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Da man:

Would that have been about DB Cooper? I think the real thing happened on a Northwest 727. ???



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User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 948 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Any idea of where to locate this hard landing and tail damage online or anywhere else? I am very interested in seeing that.

User currently offlineAirdude66 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

This was not a hard landing....

More like a hard take-off !

They had to circle and land after they lost their ass.


User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Beltway,

It's probably a bit more than cosmetic. There are probably aerodynamic factors involved too.

Da Man,

If you are talking about D. B. Cooper, it was a 727 and the rear airstairs were lowered on that flight.

TrnsWrld,

The FAA has listings of submitted aircraft and airport incidents but a specific date is not given. You would search all of 1987 if ya want... This incident may be to old to find through the FAA website.



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