Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16 Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3298 times:
Okay...been reading about the eventual demise of SWA because of the lack of a TV set in the seats. So I gotta ask, if given the choice of one or two flights a day between cities with a TV set, or 10 to 15 flights a day without TV, but with a scheduled that will allow you to fly out and back the same day, which is the one you'd pick?
Bottom line, which is more important - frequency or reruns of Family Ties?
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3246 times:
Frequency isn't "way overrated." Consider this:
FR, Europe's most profitable airline, does not compete well with Air Wales, a CWL-based carrier, on its CWL-DUB-CWL. The reason for this is that Air Wales has a morning and an evening flight in both directions, thus enabling day trips and consequently being of interest to business people. FR, however, has a midday flight only and so requiring an overnight stay in either city. Clearly, frequency and the time of the flights are, indeed, of some importance - especially if a small carrier like Air Wales does better on the route than a well-established low-cost airline.
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Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3230 times:
OK, maybe I should have formulated that a bit differently - what I meant by being "way overrated" is, for example, what Goingboeing said - 10-15 flights a day: to really make travel practical for business and leisure travellers alike, a route needs at least a morning and an evening flight, I'll absolutely agree with you on that - but 10-15 flights? How many routes are there where 10-15 flights are really needed?
They might be nice to have, but if I have the choice between an airline that offers 2-5 flights a day and one that offers 15, I wouldn't automatically select the one that offers 15.
WNfan From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3122 times:
Goingboeing, I think you meant 12 weekday WN BWI-PVD flights.
In my opinion, frequency is very important. Business travelers on WN who pay full fare can choose whatever flight they want based on when they are finished with their meetings or business.
I'm itching to fly FR, and when I do, I'll be able to schedule my visits around the flight times. But for a business traveler, their schedules would be rather inconvenient. I'd like to see them follow WN some more and add frequency. They have enough destinations already.
Jetsetsteve From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
Before we start comparing WN and UA to B6. We have to remeber that both UA and WN have been around for a very long time and have the aircraft to support 12 to 15 flights a day to a place. jetblue is just going on there 4th year and only have like 40 or so aircraft.
Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2826 times:
jetblue is just going on there 4th year and only have like 40 or so aircraft.
But to read these boards, all the other airlines are going to fail because they don't have TV sets in the seats. All I want to know is - if you've got 5 flights on the other guy that can get you home, will you wait for the 1 flight on JetBlue to get your TV set??
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 690 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2718 times:
Aside from the question, why in the hell would you need to watch TV at 37000 ft? Sure, on an int'l flight, it may be important, but on a 2,3, or 4 hour flight, why can't you people who are obsessed with PTV's read a book, look out the window, or something like that. Why don't you watch television at home?
Now to the question, I would choose frequency.
Fa4ua From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
After someone takes their first flight on B6 or any carrier with PTV's with satellite connection, they quickly realize that the 24 channels at 35,000 feet are just like the 600 channels at home... nothing good on!
Seasoned travelers would rather choose an airline for frequency then PTV's.
PS: Boeing Going... slight correction... Another example would be JFK to Denver...is the one daily flight on JetBlue with a TV Set more desirable than the 10 flight options available on United without TV?
UA has video on all it's fleet except the 737's. It's a question of would someone choose PTV's with satellite feed or overhead preprogrammed video.
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better