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Largest Privately Held Airline In US..  
User currently offlineDouglas DC-9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 303 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4408 times:

Which airline is the largest privately held airline in the US? I believe Air Wisconsin is, but others say Spirit is, I do not know.

Thanks Much,
DC-9-81

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32176 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

It is Miramar, Florida-based Spirit Airlines.


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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Of course, it is for Spirit Airlines at the based in Miramar, FL near of Hollywood, FL. How is NK was doing out of FLL and you guys know about exactly begin nonstop from FLL-CUN is coming soon in the month of Dec. 11, 2003. I still wish hope how is their load factors was doing. Well, talk ya later!  Smile

User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

In terms of fleet size, I'd have to say that Air Wisconsin is larger than Spirit.... but revenue, I believe NK has it hands down.

-n


User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

How big is Air Wisconsin???

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

AWAC: RPMs 1.593 Bil
ASMs 2.3 Bil
$443 mil revenue.

Probably larger than Spirit...



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User currently offlineWNfan From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4104 times:

Being privately held, Spirit doesn't have to release their financial information, and they don't. But based on the number of flights and type of aircraft they operate, however, we should be able to deduce their approximate revenues.

Anyone care to make an educated guess? Like in grade school arithmetic class, please show your work if you do make an estimate.


User currently offlineFlykal From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Well, if you check Spirit's website (fact sheet), they clearly state that they are the largest privately held airline. Of course, we all know you can't always believe everything you read on the net, but perhaps this one is correct?

Spirit Airlines Fact Sheet Link!



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User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 984 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

Maybe Aloha Airlines would give Spirit a run for their money, esp. with the latest expansion to the mainland.

User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2335 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3925 times:

For Aloha:
Employees: 3,459 as of July 31, 2003
Revenue Passengers Enplaned in 2002: 4.4 million
Freight Pounds Carried in 2002: 128.4 million
Fleet: 10 B737-700, 10 B737-200, 4 B737-200QCs
Destinations Served: ITO, HNL, KOA, OGG, LIH, BUR, LAS, OAK, SNA, PHX, RNO, SMF, YVR, RAR, PPG, MAJ, KWA, JON, CXI



Aloha Airlines - The Spirit Moves Us. Gone but NEVER Forgotten. Aloha, A Hui Hou!
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3841 times:

Aloha has more employees but less aircraft. Hmmm....I'd still guess Spirit.

User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 984 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 3686 times:

Based upon 2002 figures for YTD October, Aloha is acutally larger by Passengers Enplaned, Freight Pounds Carried, and offers more flights per day than Spirit.

Spirit could be larger based on RPM and ASM since AQ's interisland flights are relatively short in duration. Also, Spirit has 6 more aircraft than AQ.


These figures also do not count Island Air, the other airline owned by Aloha Air Group.


User currently offlineDouglas DC-9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3590 times:

I was looking up AWAC and found this, published Oct. 03'. So I really dunno who is right, Spirit, or AWAC

"Growing By a Factor of Four"

Appleton - When Geoffrey Crowley became president and chief executive officer of Air Wisconsin, the airline had about a dozen cities on its route map, including Appleton, Oshkosh, Madison and Milwaukee.

Fast forward 10 years: Air Wisconsin now serves 58 cities in 26 states and two Canadian provinces. It is the largest privately held airline in the United States, according to the Regional Airline Association, and its monthly revenue passenger miles have surpassed Midwest Airlines.

For the first nine months of 2003, Air Wisconsin carried 1.1 million more passengers compared with the same period a year earlier. The airline's fleet has increased from 17 planes only six years ago to 72 jets, with about 15 more on order for 2004." - The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Oct. 03'


Thanks Much,
DC-9-81


User currently offlineMidway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

It all depends on how you want it to be. AWAC is the largest in # of a/c, ASM's and I would guess revenue. (since we don't truely know with it in private hands) AWAC is also growing as ACA retreats from the UA contract too. However when you are talking about Independent carriers, I personally give NK the edge over Aloha


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