Aircanada From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 148 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
I have a question that maybe someone could answer for me. Last Thursday (Nov. 13), I was flying as a revenue pax on a West Jet flight from YYC-YYZ. This was the day that it got really windy and (I think) they closed the airport down for awhile.
We were on finals for YYZ, the captain told the FA's to take their seats. As you can imagine, it was extremely bumpy (the FA's even told the PAX to stow newspapers and books, which we rarely do). We had just gotten below the clouds and kept decending. All of a sudden, the pilots increased the power to the engines and started climbing again. They leveled off just below the clouds. Then we flew out over a lake (I think it was lake Ontario) and climbed above the clouds. We flew straight like this for about 25-30 minutes then turned around, decended and landed (well, sort of "crash landed") in YYZ. Can anyone tell me what the jaunt over the lake was for? The only thing I can think of is that they diverted us, but then we turned back because YYZ reopened.
It bothers me that the captain didn't tell us what was going on, nor did he offer an explanation after landing. A lot of people were frightened enough as it was from the turbulence, it doesn't help when you add in the element of going somewhere unknown. I have to admit, even being an FA, I was a little worried.
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
I don't know when your flight was trying to get into YYZ but here's a list of ATC advisories for YYZ from that day:
TORONTO TMU ADVZY 001 CYYZ/CZY 11/13/2003 (No title)
MESSAGE:
TORNTO IS NOW ON RWY 15 OPS DUE WIND/WX. AIRHOLDS 15/ 30 MINUTES STILL POSSIBLE FOR NEXT TWO HOURS
SIGNATURE:
03/11/13 01:04
TORONTO TMU ADVZY 002 CYYZ/CZY 11/13/2003 OPERATIONS
FORECAST 0200- 0330Z
MESSAGE:
ARRIVALS: 23/24R / DEPARTURES: 23/24R
AIR DELAYS: NO FURTHER DELAYS EXPECTED UNLESS REQUIRED TO SWITCH
BACK TO A RWY 15 OP.
SIGNATURE:
03/11/13 02:04
TORONTO TMU ADVZY 003 CYYZ/CZY 11/13/2003 OPERATIONS FORECAST 1200Z-2000Z
MESSAGE:
ARRIVALS: 23/24R / DEPARTURES: 23/24R
AIR DELAYS: POSSIBLE FOR ETAS AFTER 1800Z
INFO: WIND EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY VEER THROUGHOUT THE MORNING, WITH CHG TO RWY 33 OPS. PROBABLE GDP FOR ARRS AFTER 1800Z.
SIGNATURE:
03/11/13 12:12
TORONTO TMU ADVZY 006 CYYZ/CZY 11/13/2003 11/13/2003 CDM GROUND DELAY PROGRAM
MESSAGE:
AIRPORT: CYYZ
ADL TIME: 18:09Z
ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 132000Z - 140159Z
PROGRAM AAR: 36
FLIGHTS INCLUDED: ALL CANADIAN AND CONTIGUOUS US DEPARTURES
AVERAGE DELAY: 21
MAXIMUM DELAY: 73
REASON: WEATHER, NW WIND
REMARKS:
131824-140259
SIGNATURE:
03/11/13 18:18
TORONTO TMU ADVZY 007 CYYZ/CZY 11/13/2003 OPERATIONS FORECAST 1900Z - 0330Z
MESSAGE:
ARRIVALS: 33L / DEPARTURES: 33R
AIR DELAYS: GDP IN PLACE, AIRHOLDS UP TO 15 MINUTES POSSIBLE
GROUND DELAY PROGRAM: WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR CYYZ ARRIVALS WITH
ETAS BETWEEN 200Z AND 0159Z.
OTHER INFORMATION: MET ADVISES WE CAN EXPECT --RWY 33 OPS IN EFFECT
ALL NIGHT DUE WIND......
SIGNATURE:
03/11/13 19:25
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