Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3055 times:
It is still offered. A recent corporate customer just took delivery of a new one. The Japanese & Italian air forces are taking delivery of a maritime version based on the 762. The proposed KC-767 will be based on the 762 airframe.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3055 times:
Yes it is. Boeing is assembling some military 762s for the air forces of Italy & Japan. Also the USAF is getting some 100 762s transport/tankers (once the contract is signed) as a supplement to the KC-135s & KC-10s fleet. Regards.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
Only 4 E-767 AWACS for the JASDF were made. No plans exist now for any more to be built. The mission kit is the same as the E-3 to inlcude the AN/APY-2 Radar. In fact US E-3s are acutally more capable due to the PDS and Block 30/35 upgrades, but we are not getting the E-767 any time soon if ever. The E-10 and MC2A programs will use the 767 but AWACS is the last priority to put on it during the spiral developemnt. We will be in the E-3 unitl 2020-2025 at which point much Air Battle Managers will not need to be in the air.
Originally Boeing was going to re-open the 707 line for Japan but they reduced their order to 4 which would not have been profitable (I think 10 was the break even number to reopen the line)
Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
The tanker deal is indeed cleared:
''Thursday, November 13, 2003
Air tanker deal clears last hurdle
Senate vote sends it to president
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER NEWS SERVICES
The Boeing Co. won approval yesterday of a long-delayed deal with the Air Force to lease and buy 100 converted 767 jets as midair refueling tankers and finally landed a deal with China to provide 30 737 planes.
Ending a two-year battle, the Senate gave final approval to the controversial plan for the Air Force to lease 20 tankers immediately and buy 80 more planes in a standard purchase.
The compromise was pushed as a way to satisfy Arizona Sen. John McCain and others who criticized the original proposal of leasing all 100 planes as too costly.
The revised plan is expected to reduce the cost of the $21 billion deal by at least $3 billion and may save as much $5 billion over 15 years, depending on when the planes are bought and other factors.
The Senate gave formal approval to the deal as part of a $401 billion measure it passed yesterday and sent to the White House authorizing 2004 military programs. The House passed the bill Friday.
During debate on the bill Tuesday, supporters hailed the upcoming vote as the end of a long, hard fight.
"I don't think this is the last we'll hear about tankers, but this compromise strikes a balance," said Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash. "The Air Force gets to start a needed tanker replacement program, taxpayers get a savings of $2.2 billion and workers get to continue manufacturing a great product."
The planes will be built at Boeing's plant in Everett and modified in Wichita, Kan.
Lawmakers in Kansas and in Washington state had lobbied extensively on behalf of the tanker deal, as did House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., whose district is close to Boeing's Chicago headquarters.
Lawmakers in Florida and North Dakota, where many of the planes will be housed, also worked on behalf of the deal.
While the plan is limited to 100 planes, the Air Force needs to replace more than 400 existing KC-135 refueling tankers, and supporters expect Boeing to have an edge in the competition for the remaining planes.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16858 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2506 times:
The USAF will initialy order 100 767-200s from Boeing, which will be built at Everett then flown to Wichita where they will be converted for military tanker role.
The KC-767 is replacing the KC-135, there are 550 KC-135s in the fleet.
Since the KC-767 carries a larger load than the KC-135, and the dispatch/reliability rate of the brand new KC-767 will be much higher than the 40 year old KC-135s they will not need to replace the KC-135 on a one to one basis to retain the current capability. They might be able to retain the current capability of 550 KC-135s with fewer than 500 KC-767s, so the 767-200 will be rolling out of Everett for a long time.