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Is Air Canada Taking Delivery Of Their A345's?  
User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7431 times:

Have a look at the picture...??? Looks like they are flying them around, could this be just testing them before slapping a much need Canadian registration on them and flown over here...would be a great addition to the YYZ-DEL route!!


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Grant


Drive it like you stole it!
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User currently offlineJaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7357 times:

They were supposed to take them, but they cant afford them at the moment and Airbus hasnt found anyone else to take them. Emirates and Royal Bruini have both been rumoured, but nothing has been decided yet. I belive Air Canada is still planning on taking delivery of the A346 which they ordered 3 frames.

User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

I do not quite understand the photographer's comments:

All A345 aircraft for Air Canada are paid but NTU (according to Airbus...) wonder why this one was flying around later the day.

Can someone explain?


User currently offlineBOEING747-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7199 times:

I think they want them, maybe they have plans for them when they come out of bankruptcy protection

User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7137 times:

A340-541 445 F-WWTH stored Chateaurous
A340-541 464 F-WWTJ was ferried from Chateaurous to TLS on 23rd OCT.

BOTH ARE FOR EMIRATES NOW.



User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7000 times:

Emirates eh? Where'd you hear that?


EH.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6883 times:

I don't think he knows what he's talking about. Nobody knows.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Emirates will commence Dubai-JFK service June 1st, 2004 with the 345.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

Off topic, but that is one lovely looking plane  Wow!

Does anyone know what routes the A340 will be used on if AC were to actually be able to afford them? Just the YYZ-DEL?

Regards,

Justin  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6785 times:

they were originally purchased with the intention of YYZ-HKG; their first scheduled flights would have been YYZ-NRT.

User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6744 times:

Ahhh, many thanks ConcordeBoy.  Wink/being sarcastic

It is such a shame to hear about leading Airlines going into financial ruins  Sad

Regards,

Justin  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4774 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6677 times:

YYZ-DEL
YYZ-HKG
YYZ-NRT ....are the AC A 345 routes

Future : (my hopes)

YYZ-DXB
YYZ-BOM
YYZ-ICN
YYZ-JNB


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6570 times:

They also talked about flying YYZ to Australia with the 500's.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineHardkor From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6500 times:

Wasn't there talk about a YVR-SYD direct route with the 500s?

User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6407 times:

All A345 aircraft for Air Canada are paid but NTU (according to Airbus...) wonder why this one was flying around later the day.

I think he means AC already paid for both of the aircraft, but in the end, they decided not to take delivery of the two.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4979 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6375 times:

"YYZ-DXB
YYZ-BOM
YYZ-ICN
YYZ-JNB"

 Big thumbs up

I think its a little far fetched.

C'mon... whats next YYZ-Antartica? YYZ-Addis Adaba?




User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6354 times:

Perhaps they are delaying the delivery of the A340-500s to a later date ?


Airliners is the wings of my life.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6238 times:

C'mon... whats next YYZ-Antartica? YYZ-Addis Adaba?

As illogical as those routes are, they make more sense than YUL-Antarctica or YUL-Addis Ababa.

YUL can't even support SFO service on a sustained basis.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

Sir captaingomers,

You have facts to say they are not going to EK. FINE show us! Dont tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4979 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Once again..

Neil hijacks the thread.

Good going.



User currently offlineAirbus340313x From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5998 times:

I will try to tell you guys what is going on with the 345's this week, because AC called me back to active duty after 6 months of layoff, and Ill be back at the 340/330 line. I will see what the computer and the managers have to say about the 345. Last time I checked on the computers, both 951 and 952 were already entered!

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5959 times:

N754pr ... I did not mean to imply you were nuts or anything, but at this point, the case of the A345's is completely up in the air. Until those aircraft are in EK colours, or are in Canada operating for Air Canada, or are in any other airline's colours, nobody knows what is going on with those aircraft. With all due respect, we must all just wait and see. I heard many different people assure me they knew what they were talking about regarding these aircraft, yet they all have different opinions. Go figure, experts never agree!

Anyways ... these A345's are still up for adoption and looking for a home.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

BOTH ARE FOR EMIRATES NOW.

You have facts to say they are not going to EK. FINE show us! Dont tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

Ok where are your facts... N754pr? Maybe these aircrafts are with AA? When you come up with some facts, please share them with us, we only want to know the direction of Air Canada, and if they takes these aircraft it will answer a lot of questions. They have just recently taken the Ex-Canadian 744's out of service, so there is a room for a large capacity long haul aircraft. The A345 would fit perfect there.

Just the facts pall, no attacking people with a lot of Air Canada knowledge  Big thumbs up

Grant



Drive it like you stole it!
User currently offlineC-GRYK From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 751 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

Yes Mark, any potential route from Toronto is of course far fetched meanwhile any potential route from Montreal is of course bound to do well right?  Yeah sure

Jeremy



Think before you type!
User currently offlineRP TPA From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

Yet again, another YYZ vs YUL flamebashing war.

I think Toronto and Montreal should declare total war against each other. After both cities are annihilated, AC should move their major operational hub to Thunder Bay, or Kelowna. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)


25 Caribb : Neil (Mark) C'mon... whats next YYZ-Antartica? YYZ-Addis Adaba? (Neil) As illogical as those routes are, they make more sense than YUL-Antarctica or Y
26 Marco : Once again.. Neil hijacks the thread. Good going. Actually Mark, you hijacked the thread with your first post. AC is going to expand internationally a
27 FLYYUL : Actually Marco. You have nothing to say... which is usually what happens.
28 Marco : All you do is whine about airlines ignoring YUL. Get over. If you need help, go see a therapist. People are really getting sick of your whining.
29 Post contains images FLYYUL : Yes Marco. BECAUSE THATS HOW I TRULY FEEL
30 Marco : Anyway let's get back to the topic(which isn't about YUL - GASP!)... Is AC ever going to consider buying some A345's in the future?
31 Yyz717 : Is AC ever going to consider buying some A345's in the future? AC will no doubt re-consider the 345/346 once (if?) their finances improve IMHO. It's t
32 Caribb : I hope they consider them in the future.. I'm not sure what to really expect after they come out of bankrupcy. It would seem they plan to both lessen
33 Yyz717 : I'm not sure what's left that would warrant a large A345 size plane to be used. The 345 is actually not much bigger than the 343 Caribb. It just has
34 Gigneil : Its a 4 frame stretch... vs the 20 frame stretch of the 340-600. N
35 Caribb : The 345 is actually not much bigger than the 343 Caribb. It just has much greater range/payload capability True. Then the whole point of getting the -
36 Aussie747 : Hardkor - you did hear right YVR to SYD was a A345 route scheduled for DEC 2003 (heard straight from the sales at Air Canada back in FEB 2003 - right
37 Gigneil : The A340-200 is never a better choice. It boasts operating costs equal to the A340-300X, so the chance of added profit makes the 343 a better frame. T
38 Yyz717 : The A340-200 is never a better choice. It boasts operating costs equal to the A340-300X, On a seat-per-mile basis, the 342 has slightly higher costs t
39 Post contains images BO__einG : I predict that AC's A340-600 frames on order will complete to delivery ready before the airline says NONO We can't afford it and pull off an A345 stun
40 Dash8King : I thought AC was going to move to an all EMB145/Q400 fleet? I guess they can make room for two 345's.
41 GuyBetsy1 : Would you guys believe that IRAN AIR was a strong contender to these two A345s way back in Sept? Don't know about it now... Other possiblities were SO
42 Shenzhen : Just from memory, but won't some later A340-500/600s perform better then the first few 25 off the line. Maybe they will use the courts to get out of t
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