TrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 830 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5844 times:
I believe that the MD-83 and MD-88 are very similar aircraft, however the 83 has longer range capabilities. Both aircraft have glass cockpits. I could be wrong but I think the 82's have the older style cockpit. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3377 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5808 times:
i thought it went:
MD-81 = original model
MD-82 = MD-81 with more powerful engines
MD-83 = MD-82 with more range
MD-87 = shortened MD-83
MD-88 = MD-83 with glass cockpit, (and better engines/range, im not sure there)
MD-90 = MD-88 with new engines
Im probably completly rong thou, should go back to me 737s eh
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2902 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5664 times:
CanadianNorth pretty much hit the nail on the head, as far as the MD-80 family goes. Only the -88 has the glass cockpit. The MD-87, in addition to its shorter DC-9-50-length fuselage, can also be identified by its tail, which extends higher above the horizontal stabilizer than on the other models. The same tail was then used on the MD-90-30 which, in addition to incorporating an MD-88-like glass cockpit and using V2500 engines, has a stretched fuselage.
As for the evolution of the DC-9...it's late and I'm getting tired, but here goes...
DC-9-10: original short model
DC-9-30: longer fuselage, and improved wing with leading edge slats
DC-9-20: fuselage of -10, but wings of -30
DC-9-40: wings of -30, with slightly longer fuselage
DC-9-50: wings of -30, with even longer fuselage
DC-9-80: see CanadianNorth's description, above
The 717 incorporates many of the improvements of the MD-90, plus additional changes such as BR715 engines and an updated cockpit, with the approximate fuselage length of the DC-9-30.
Whew. That may not be 100% accurate, but it's reasonably close.
Jettblasterp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 203 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5582 times:
The MD88 has a much higher takeoff weight than the -82. 160,000lbs vs 142,000lbs or something like that attributed to its stronger engines. It also holds more fuel than the -82, 49,500lbs vs thirty something giving it much longer range. Range and fuel numbers are the same as the -83, but it has the "EFIS" cockpit.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5389 times:
Actually, Delta had placed orders for MD-82s, and had already begun taking delivery of them when McD announced the MD-88. DL then stopped taking deliveries of MD-82s and converted the other orders to MD-88s. The MD-82s they had were cvtd to MD-88.
TrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 830 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5353 times:
just wanted to correct you that the 88 is NOT the only one with glass cockpit. MD-83's do as well and from what I understand SOME 82's. Now if you remember correctly the newest MD-80's flying today are all MD-83's which were sold to TWA. So, ofcourse the newest version made has the glass cockpit. And like I said the 83 has longer range than the 88.
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2902 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5263 times:
You're right, what I should have said was that the MD-88 was the only one *launched* with a glass cockpit. My intent was to correct an earlier post that had implied that *all* MD-83s have a glass cockpit, which is definitely not the case--in fact, most don't. It's true that the last MD-83s off the line were built with MD-88-style glass cockpits, and others were upgraded after entering service, but these changes were made after the new cockpit was developed for the MD-88, years after the launch of the MD-83. There is a good thread in Tech/Ops that discusses upgrading the analog cockpit:
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5103 times:
The -81/-82/-83 series are still DC-9 variants. The -87 and onward are just known as MD-**'s.
DC-9-81, DC-9-82, DC-9-83, MD-87, MD-88, MD-90
They are known as "MD" but are modifications to the base aircraft which is the "DC-9". So it is not technically incorrect to call an MD-88 as a DC-9-88 or DC-9-87 to the MD87 as those are their proper designators. I'm not sure about the MD90 I think it was certified apart from their siblings.
The MD prefix was introduced for marketing reasons and because of the merger of Douglas Commercial with McDonnell.
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DeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 36 Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4855 times:
The MD-87/-88/and -90 ARE NOT DC-9 variants. MDC purposefully cut off the DC-9 prefix for these aircraft since they were of a 'newer generation', so yes it is incorrect to call an MD-88 a DC-9-88. The DC-9 designator ends with the -83 series.
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Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4759 times:
I used to think you could tell an MD-81 from the newer versions by its pointed tail cone. However, I believe some MD-82s also have a pointed tail and some have the newer 'screwdriver blade' tail cone. Am I right about this?
N844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4707 times:
I'd been wondering about this, so maybe you can clear it up for me. If the MD-87/88/90 is not equivalent to a DC-9-87/88/90, does that mean that the MD-87/88/90 are NOT the 87th, 88th, and 90th design revisions to the DC-9?
Let me try to clarify my question a bit: I read once something that implied the MD-87 was so named because it was introduced in 1987. Were the MD-87/88/90/95 so named because those were the years in which the models were announced/introduced? Or is it still a descriptor of airframe revision, just without the DC-9 prefix?
New airplanes, new employees, low fares, all touchy-feely ... all of them are losers. -Gordon Bethune
Fly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19 Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4634 times:
DeltaMD11... Thanks for your answer but I'm still not sure about that, (I might be wrong though). That means that the MD-88 is a completely independent certified aircraft with no legal (as far as it concerns to regs, etc) attachments to their older siblings MD83's and niners?
I remember that in the Left door frame of an MD83, it had a placard with the serial number and model of the aircraft and it said: DC-9-83; because of that and some other info I assumed that all of them but the MD90 and MD95 were VARIANTS of the DC-9 program. Please, someone clarify the terms and names under the ones, the aircraft we all know as MD83, MD87, MD88 and MD90, were certified.
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