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Whats The Difference Between MD-82 And MD-88?  
User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1264 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7154 times:

I know that Delta is (or was) the only operator of the MD-88, but what`s the difference between those two fine planes???

Patrick


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7048 times:

The main difference is the cockpit: the MD-88 has a "glass" cockpit. Also, as compared to the MD-82, the -88 has more powerful engines. It has JT8D-219s, which are also found on the MD-83.

Incidentally, DL is not the only operator of the MD-88. Other customers include Aeromexico, Aerolineas Argentinas, and Aviaco of Spain, later merged into Iberia.



[Edited 2003-11-22 02:05:03]


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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7007 times:

Aeromexico
Aerolineas Argentinas
Delta
Iberia
Midwest
Southeast Airlines

are the only M88 operators.


User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6866 times:

I believe that the MD-83 and MD-88 are very similar aircraft, however the 83 has longer range capabilities. Both aircraft have glass cockpits. I could be wrong but I think the 82's have the older style cockpit. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6830 times:

i thought it went:
MD-81 = original model
MD-82 = MD-81 with more powerful engines
MD-83 = MD-82 with more range
MD-87 = shortened MD-83
MD-88 = MD-83 with glass cockpit, (and better engines/range, im not sure there)
MD-90 = MD-88 with new engines


Im probably completly rong thou, should go back to me 737s eh


CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6823 times:
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I assume each advance was made in engine power, efficiency and seats as well as cockpit.

actually, can anyone explain the advances that were made, each time, in going from

dc-9

to

md-80, 82, 82, 86, 87, 88 and whatever 80 I missed

to

md-90

to

B717.

I'd appreciate it. thanks!



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6686 times:

CanadianNorth pretty much hit the nail on the head, as far as the MD-80 family goes. Only the -88 has the glass cockpit. The MD-87, in addition to its shorter DC-9-50-length fuselage, can also be identified by its tail, which extends higher above the horizontal stabilizer than on the other models. The same tail was then used on the MD-90-30 which, in addition to incorporating an MD-88-like glass cockpit and using V2500 engines, has a stretched fuselage.

As for the evolution of the DC-9...it's late and I'm getting tired, but here goes...

DC-9-10: original short model
DC-9-30: longer fuselage, and improved wing with leading edge slats
DC-9-20: fuselage of -10, but wings of -30
DC-9-40: wings of -30, with slightly longer fuselage
DC-9-50: wings of -30, with even longer fuselage
DC-9-80: see CanadianNorth's description, above

The 717 incorporates many of the improvements of the MD-90, plus additional changes such as BR715 engines and an updated cockpit, with the approximate fuselage length of the DC-9-30.

Whew. That may not be 100% accurate, but it's reasonably close.



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User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6651 times:

..... I must add that the MD87 was the first MD80 series jet with the glass cockpit.


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User currently offlineJettblasterp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 203 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

The MD88 has a much higher takeoff weight than the -82. 160,000lbs vs 142,000lbs or something like that attributed to its stronger engines. It also holds more fuel than the -82, 49,500lbs vs thirty something giving it much longer range. Range and fuel numbers are the same as the -83, but it has the "EFIS" cockpit.

User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6603 times:

six!!!

just kidding, the -88 has a glass cockpit and newer avionics I suppose



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

Actually, the 717-200 is closer in length to the DC-9-40 than the DC-9-30.

User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6446 times:

Starting in the late 80's MD-82's were built with CRT's like you would find in a -83 or -88.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6411 times:

Actually, Delta had placed orders for MD-82s, and had already begun taking delivery of them when McD announced the MD-88. DL then stopped taking deliveries of MD-82s and converted the other orders to MD-88s. The MD-82s they had were cvtd to MD-88.

User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 931 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6375 times:

FoxBravo,
just wanted to correct you that the 88 is NOT the only one with glass cockpit. MD-83's do as well and from what I understand SOME 82's. Now if you remember correctly the newest MD-80's flying today are all MD-83's which were sold to TWA. So, ofcourse the newest version made has the glass cockpit. And like I said the 83 has longer range than the 88.


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6285 times:

You're right, what I should have said was that the MD-88 was the only one *launched* with a glass cockpit. My intent was to correct an earlier post that had implied that *all* MD-83s have a glass cockpit, which is definitely not the case--in fact, most don't. It's true that the last MD-83s off the line were built with MD-88-style glass cockpits, and others were upgraded after entering service, but these changes were made after the new cockpit was developed for the MD-88, years after the launch of the MD-83. There is a good thread in Tech/Ops that discusses upgrading the analog cockpit:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/44326/4/



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User currently offlineDeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

" assume each advance was made in engine power, efficiency and seats as well as cockpit.

actually, can anyone explain the advances that were made, each time, in going from

dc-9

to

md-80, 82, 82, 86, 87, 88 and whatever 80 I missed"

Mirrodie--
The -81/-82/-83 series are still DC-9 variants. The -87 and onward are just known as MD-**'s.

DC-9-81, DC-9-82, DC-9-83, MD-87, MD-88, MD-90



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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6125 times:

Mirrodie--
The -81/-82/-83 series are still DC-9 variants. The -87 and onward are just known as MD-**'s.

DC-9-81, DC-9-82, DC-9-83, MD-87, MD-88, MD-90


They are known as "MD" but are modifications to the base aircraft which is the "DC-9". So it is not technically incorrect to call an MD-88 as a DC-9-88 or DC-9-87 to the MD87 as those are their proper designators. I'm not sure about the MD90 I think it was certified apart from their siblings.

The MD prefix was introduced for marketing reasons and because of the merger of Douglas Commercial with McDonnell.

RM  Smile



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User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6036 times:

Didn't the MD-95 become the actual 717?


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User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

Codeshare....i believe your correct.

Also, AA has converted most of there MD-80's to the 82 or 83 now......i love the 83 and up's cockpits. Very nice and much more efficent.


User currently offlineAgnusBymaster From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

What is the difference between an MD-83 with a glass cockpit and an MD-88?

User currently offlineDeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

Fly727-
The MD-87/-88/and -90 ARE NOT DC-9 variants. MDC purposefully cut off the DC-9 prefix for these aircraft since they were of a 'newer generation', so yes it is incorrect to call an MD-88 a DC-9-88. The DC-9 designator ends with the -83 series.



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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5781 times:

I used to think you could tell an MD-81 from the newer versions by its pointed tail cone. However, I believe some MD-82s also have a pointed tail and some have the newer 'screwdriver blade' tail cone. Am I right about this?

User currently offlineN844AA From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5729 times:

DeltaMD11-

I'd been wondering about this, so maybe you can clear it up for me. If the MD-87/88/90 is not equivalent to a DC-9-87/88/90, does that mean that the MD-87/88/90 are NOT the 87th, 88th, and 90th design revisions to the DC-9?

Let me try to clarify my question a bit: I read once something that implied the MD-87 was so named because it was introduced in 1987. Were the MD-87/88/90/95 so named because those were the years in which the models were announced/introduced? Or is it still a descriptor of airframe revision, just without the DC-9 prefix?



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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5656 times:

DeltaMD11... Thanks for your answer but I'm still not sure about that, (I might be wrong though). That means that the MD-88 is a completely independent certified aircraft with no legal (as far as it concerns to regs, etc) attachments to their older siblings MD83's and niners?

I remember that in the Left door frame of an MD83, it had a placard with the serial number and model of the aircraft and it said: DC-9-83; because of that and some other info I assumed that all of them but the MD90 and MD95 were VARIANTS of the DC-9 program. Please, someone clarify the terms and names under the ones, the aircraft we all know as MD83, MD87, MD88 and MD90, were certified.

RM  Smile



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 5602 times:

Olympus I believe you are right about the tail cone, although the newer MD80s most seem to have the scredriver type. By the way isn't the MD90 longer than the MD80 series by a few feet?

25 Ts-ior : OnurAir is also an MD-88 client. The early models,except MD-87,MD-88 and MD-90,had a different tail cone.Why this change ?
26 DeltaMD11 : To clarify a few questions posed: Quite obviously, the MD-87/-88/-90 are descendants of the DC-9 family. However, because these were of a 'newer' gene
27 Rick : Just to clarify the tail cone question: Why early MD80's have pointed tails vs. Squared off tails for the later MD models? The squared off tail on the
28 FBU 4EVER! : Apart from the extra fuel tanks of the MD-83,the only differences between an MD-81-82 and -83,are the certified weights.There are two options re. engi
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