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First Airline With White Fuselage Big Title Livery  
User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

Could it be Pan Am?


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In the eighties lots of airlines followed this trend. Lufthansa, Air France, others too.


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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

do you mean mostly white fuselage with titles? lufthansa and air france dont have "big" titles like Pan Am. If you mean billboard titles, LOT was the first if not one of the very first to use big titles on the fuselage

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mario r.


User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3856 times:

What I meant exactly was getting rid of the stripe that goes all the way through the fuselage. It's going "through" the windows.
Many airlines had it (just like that Pan Am 747 on the left).



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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3811 times:

Air France's color scheme (all white fuselage/big title/stripes) was introduced in 1976, and Concorde was the first airplane to wear it, for its inaugural flight in January 1976, followed by the A300.
I think AF is one of the first, if not THE first, to introduce this new type of livery.


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3745 times:

I put forward UTA - don't know when they changed to their scheme, but the earliest pic in the database is from 1973. Its unfortunate (or fortunate depending on how you felt about it I guess) that their different coloured doors weren't also copied.


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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3219 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3686 times:

It was AF, hence why it is refered to as the "eurowhite" livery.
And yes, it was in 76! It was a few years before others caught on. Ansett. adpoted it with the introdution of the 732 in 1981, and it never really did catch on in the USA. SAS also in the early eighties, with Qantas about the same time the 762 and 743 came. Think long and hard about it though. Most of the biggest airlines in the world didn't adopt it completely. plenty still, like BA for example, had blue bottoms, like JAL for example, with grey bottoms.


User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3234 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

As VirginFlyer wrote above, Union de Transports Aeriens (UTA) were sporting their final livery since the early seventies, well before Air France's "eurowhite".


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Did Air France's new identity coincide with their assimilation of UTA and Air Inter perhaps?



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User currently offlineMoolies From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Well there is one current day airline with a white fuselage and an absolutely beautiful colour scheme.

the one and only South African Airways


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

I don't call UTA colours an "all white" fuselage !!! : green doors, big dark blue section on the tail and and rear fuselage...

UTA and AIR INTER assimilation was effective in feb.1992 for UTA and April 1997 for Air Inter...

The "Eurowhite" livery, still in service today was introduced in 1976, as I mentionned above, when the first Concorde joined the fleet.


User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1517 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3248 times:

Thai International has their current livery (which is predominantly white) since 1975 or 1976 if I recall correctly.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlinePIA777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

ITS PIA
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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

The question refers to the first airline to go for a white fuselage without cheatline or other such device, and large titles. UTA fits that bill on all counts (the green doors are certainly innovative!).

It was certainly not PIA, as the following photo dated 1985 shows:

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Neither is it Thai, who still have the cheatline today (in a livery introduced in the mid-1970s)


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Unless anyone can advance on UTA, I maintain that they were the first to implement this now-common style.

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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3032 times:

I agree that UTA was an innovator with its livery......very unique and stylish, and a very good airline that was a pioneer on many routes, but the question is whether one can consider the UTA livery a "Euro-white" livery (as the look is commonly known) with its green doors and near-black tail colors extending well down onto the fuselage of the aircraft? I think that the UTA livery was far too stylish and attractive to be considered one of the "Euro-white" gang, but that is only my opinion.

I would vote for Air France, which introduced the all white look in the 1970s and later followed by many other airlines....personally, I think that the all-white airliners look rather dull, and are not very attractive when dirty or in need of a paint job. I have seen many AF aircraft that have really not looked very nice.


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10766 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

UTA was indeed very influential, maybe the most advanced livery ever at the time it was launched in the early 70s.
The first "Big title"-look, and the bold "wedge"-treatment of the tail was forerunner of Qantas and others.
Unfortunaly the painted doors never appeared elsewhere.


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