MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2739 times:
do you mean mostly white fuselage with titles? lufthansa and air france dont have "big" titles like Pan Am. If you mean billboard titles, LOT was the first if not one of the very first to use big titles on the fuselage
Codeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 2622 times:
What I meant exactly was getting rid of the stripe that goes all the way through the fuselage. It's going "through" the windows.
Many airlines had it (just like that Pan Am 747 on the left).
How much A is there is Airliners Net ? 0 or nothing ?
FLYSSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 2577 times:
Air France's color scheme (all white fuselage/big title/stripes) was introduced in 1976, and Concorde was the first airplane to wear it, for its inaugural flight in January 1976, followed by the A300.
I think AF is one of the first, if not THE first, to introduce this new type of livery.
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 49 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 2511 times:
I put forward UTA - don't know when they changed to their scheme, but the earliest pic in the database is from 1973. Its unfortunate (or fortunate depending on how you felt about it I guess) that their different coloured doors weren't also copied.
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3086 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 2452 times:
It was AF, hence why it is refered to as the "eurowhite" livery.
And yes, it was in 76! It was a few years before others caught on. Ansett. adpoted it with the introdution of the 732 in 1981, and it never really did catch on in the USA. SAS also in the early eighties, with Qantas about the same time the 762 and 743 came. Think long and hard about it though. Most of the biggest airlines in the world didn't adopt it completely. plenty still, like BA for example, had blue bottoms, like JAL for example, with grey bottoms.
Motorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2817 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
As VirginFlyer wrote above, Union de Transports Aeriens (UTA) were sporting their final livery since the early seventies, well before Air France's "eurowhite".
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 49 Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
The question refers to the first airline to go for a white fuselage without cheatline or other such device, and large titles. UTA fits that bill on all counts (the green doors are certainly innovative!).
It was certainly not PIA, as the following photo dated 1985 shows:
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
I agree that UTA was an innovator with its livery......very unique and stylish, and a very good airline that was a pioneer on many routes, but the question is whether one can consider the UTA livery a "Euro-white" livery (as the look is commonly known) with its green doors and near-black tail colors extending well down onto the fuselage of the aircraft? I think that the UTA livery was far too stylish and attractive to be considered one of the "Euro-white" gang, but that is only my opinion.
I would vote for Air France, which introduced the all white look in the 1970s and later followed by many other airlines....personally, I think that the all-white airliners look rather dull, and are not very attractive when dirty or in need of a paint job. I have seen many AF aircraft that have really not looked very nice.
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9705 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
UTA was indeed very influential, maybe the most advanced livery ever at the time it was launched in the early 70s.
The first "Big title"-look, and the bold "wedge"-treatment of the tail was forerunner of Qantas and others.
Unfortunaly the painted doors never appeared elsewhere.
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