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User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

I'm going on the RTW trip with my wife in April next year...anyone suggest which is the best carrier to fly with between LAX and LAS? Seeing as it's not my neck of the woods, I thought i'd ask around and see. We're flying with QF/BA RTW and have run out of mileage, so we can't include the LAS sector on our RTW ticket, so it doesn't matter who we fly with.
Who flys with what aircraft? Anything interesting? or just the stock-standard 737s with coke and peanuts.
Thanks!....


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User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Well I'm assuming you have a QF and/or a BA FF account, so why don't you earn some miles with those accounts by taking a oneworld carrier, American Airlines. AA offers more room throughout coach on their aircraft (except A300 and 757). Remember, oneworld schedules usually coordinate with each other so there shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. Plus, AA and QF/BA will be able to check your bags through to your final destination since they are all members of the oneworld alliance. Remember coming into LAX from your flight with QF/BA, however, you have to claim your bag and bring it through customs and then re-check in. It just won't need a new bag tag since it was already checked through to LAS. You won't have to worry about your bags in LAX returning home however.

You won't find anything special no matter which airline you fly as this is a very short flight anyways.

[Edited 2003-11-24 07:55:55]

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Los Angeles-area/Las Vegas is a one-hour gate-to-gate flight; sevice will include merely a beverage and a package of peanuts or equivalent. My advice would be to seek out the cheapest ticket.

The more interesting choices:
- NW from LAX (Japanese translators and green tea on board the A319/A320)
- HA from ONT (the only widebody service between these two locations)
- B6 from LGB (PTV w/DirecTV at every seat)
- interesting connections priced the same as the nonstop flights (e.g. DL LAX-SLC-LAS on B764/B763, HP LGB-PHX-LAS on CR9/737-A32S-757)

Complete review:

from Los Angeles:
American - MD-82/83 and B757; B757 may not have MRTC
Ted (United) - A320; all UA flights should be operated by Ted, their new LCC
Delta - does not fly nonstop, but often offers compeitive fares via SLC -- a good chance to fly on the B764
Northwest - A319/A320; once-daily service... may be hard to get a compeitive price, but if you luck out, service will include Japanese translators and Japanese green tea as this flight is operated as an extension of NW's service LAX-NRT
America West - B732, B733, A319, A320, B752
Southwest - B737; probably the best service on this route, believe it or not, and usually the lowest fares (sometimes $55RT inclusive)...

From Orange County:
America West - B733, A319, A320
Southwest - B737

From Ontario:
America West - A319/A320 - just two daily flights each way
Hawaiian - B763 - not daily service, but your only widebody
Southwest - B737

From Long Beach
JetBlue - A320 - PTV w/DirecTV is available on the short flight
America West - no nonstop flights, but often compeitive fares via PHX -- and CRJ-900 service!

From Burbank:
Aloha - B73G
Southwest - B737

From Palm Springs:
United Express - EMB-120 turboprop service

[Edited 2003-11-24 08:10:11]

User currently onlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

AA operates two flights that are Qantas codeshare flights. Get your miles. One is an MD-80, so you would get MRTC. They other is a 757, so depending on when your trip is, it could or could not be MRTC. (MRTC is More Room Throughout Coach) It won't matter if you are planning a F class trip.

America West operates Airbuses on the route. UA operates 757's and 737's on that route. With UA you get Channel 9, if the pilot turns it on, and they usually do. (Channel 9 on the audio system let's you hear radio communications between flight crew and ATC - it fun!)

Of course, the grand daddy of them all, Southwest operates, what, 15 or so flights a day between LAX and LAS. If you read these boards, you konw about SWA. Here is your chance to fly the now famous LCC, SWA.

Don't expect food service on the route, its only about an hour in the air (even less). Besides, you'll be in Las Vegas!!!



DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, F28, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, IL-62, L-1011, MD-82/83, YS-11, DHC-8, PA-28-161, ERJ 135/145, E-1
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4750 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

If you want to fly from LAX...choose Southwest Airlines and buy the tkt online via their site as early as u can. Theyre v cheap and v good!!!

However if you can to Long Beach Airport LGB and then fly to Vegas then B6-Jet Blue is the best option but the distance factor maybe a prob for u in LA to get to LGB!


User currently offlineLImamura From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 174 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

Why don't you give TED a try.
That will be a TED route.
www.flyted.com
TED flights will be operated by A320 planes.


User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

Thanks, never ceases to amaze me how quick it is to get good info on this forum. Do the flights from other LA airports cost more than those from LAX?
Not too worried about the QF points-it's such a short flight. Sounds like we'll try TED or SWA-don't tend to fly them often at all.



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User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Quick question...

Are you connecting in LAX to get to LAS or are you first visiting Los Angeles and then flying out to LAS a few days later?

Even so, you'll probably be transferring at LAX one way or the other, correct? An all-alliance transfer is much easier than an alliance-to-alliance or airline-to-airline transfer.


User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

getting into LAX on a monday am, spending the week there, flying to LAS on sunday am, then back to Lax on wednesday for a connecting flight to heathrow, then to Rome.


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User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

If you take AA, they will be able to check your bags through to Rome from LAS since you are taking BA (correct?) and they're a big happy [alliance] family. AA may even be able to check you in for your whole itinerary right in LAS. If not, they will still be able to check your bags through but you have to remember to tell the BA agent checking you in in LAX that you have checked bags coming from AA and provide all the appropriate bag ID #s, etc. Since you'll have to transfer terminals in LAX no matter which airline you take for LAX-LAS-LAX, not having to deal with your bags will come in handy. Also, American's Terminal 4 is right next to the Tom Bradley Int'l terminal building.

Southwest will probably not check your bags through to FCO. TED/UA might as long as you provide them with all of your flight info.

[Edited 2003-11-24 09:38:35]

User currently offlinePER744 From Australia, joined Mar 2003, 405 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

Go for AA but with a QF flight number, that will give you the minimum 1000 Qantas FF points (otherwise 500 on an AA flight number)

User currently offlineEham From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

I recommend Hawaiian Airlines (HA) between LAX and LAS  Big thumbs up
Flew HA last year on this route on the 'good old' DC-10-10, nowadays the route is flown by the 767 !!!


User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

thanks tekeberry. But i really worry about having my bags checked to LAX, then LHR, then FCO. I reckon the get lost rate would be about almost 50% for something like that? Yes, will be flying BA.
Thought we'd get our own bags in LAX and recheck them in, arriving early from LAS enough to do that.



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User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

To bad your routing wasnt in the reverse from LAS-LAX....

Japan Air Lines 747-400

However, you may be able to catch this bird, it feeds as a connector into LAX from there onwards to Japan. If they have a deal similar to Qantas. When Qantas flew SFO-HNL-SYD passengers were allowed to stopover in Honolulu and continue onwards to Sydney. Being that JAL is a player with One World you may want to look into that! Air New Zealand has the same type of plan that involved LAX-HNL-AKL you could stopover in Honolulu only if you were continuing onwards to Auckland!

More interesting choices from the reverse Los Angeles area to Las Vegas...

**Aloha Airlines 737-700

Burbank to Las Vegas
Orange County to Las Vegas

**America West Airlines 757-200

Los Angeles to Las Vegas

**American Airlines 757-200

Los Angeles to Las Vegas
(Has been utilized frequently)

**Hawaiian Airlines 767-300

Ontario to Las Vegas

**Northwest Airlines A320

Los Angeles to Las Vegas


User currently onlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

The fares from Los Angeles area airports to LAS should all be about the same.

I'm not from the area, but have spent a lot of time there. So, here is my take on using other airports than LAX.

Assuming you will be staying in the more tourist areas like Hollywood/W. Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Santa Monica - Ontario, Orange County and Long Beach are going to be rather a pain to get to. Burbank and LAX are your best bets.

Now, if you plan your trip so that the last day you are in LA, you move to a hotel close to DisneyLand, then, that would be different, you might want to use Orange County or Long Beach.

Get a map of the LA area, and think lots of traffic. The rule for getting around in LA is, the farther you have to travel, the more traffic tie ups you will be stuck in.

Its just a fact of life in LA. And if you ask me, its all kind of worth it, great town LA is!



DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, F28, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, IL-62, L-1011, MD-82/83, YS-11, DHC-8, PA-28-161, ERJ 135/145, E-1
User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3188 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Eham wrote:
I recommend Hawaiian Airlines (HA) between LAX and LAS
Flew HA last year on this route on the 'good old' DC-10-10, nowadays the route is flown by the 767 !!!


HA doesn't fly LAX-LAS anymore. It goes from ONT now, as others have mentioned.

Both Ted and AA will be able to check your bags through to FCO. I'd let them, so you don't have to haul your bags between terminals. Less certain is getting your boarding passes all the way. I'd say its more likely with AA, since they and BA are both part of Oneworld Alliance.

Southwest does not have any interline agreements, so if you fly them, you will have to claim your bags from them at LAX and bring them to BA yourself.

David / MRY


User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

You probably have plenty of money and don't have to worry about the fare, but if you are purchasing an advance purchase ticket online before you get to the states, Southwest has some advantages...

If, for some reason, you get stuck in Los Angeles traffic (we know THAT never happens) or find yourself having too good a time at the Whiskey-a-go-go Southwest is real good about "rule 85" (I think that's the # in their tariff) to where, if you show up within an hour or two of your scheduled flight they will pretty much accomodate you on a later flight (and they go every hour or so) without charging you anything additional.

If your plans change while you are out there, and you need to change your reservation, the only thing you are on the hook for is the fare differential (at most probably 40 or 50 bucks) instead of a hundred dollar change fee.

Even if you have plenty of money that will leave you with a little bit extra to invest in Las Vegas. Who knows, the few bucks you save on Southwest, if inserted into the right slot machine, might make you enough to buy your own Convair 880, name it the Lisa Marie, and open up a chain of restaurants in Iraq called "Sand in the box." (Or maybe "Colonel Saddam's Asphyxiated Chicken")

To answer one of your questions, the fares on Southwest, as far as I can recall, are the same from all the L.A. area airports. So if you like, you can fly from Beautiful Downtown Burbank.

See the thread on "why do ANet people hate Southwest." If for no other reason I would encourage a visitor to this great country of ours to fly with Southwest, few companies embody what is good about America's form of capitalism any better than Southwest. They are out to make a buck but they want to have a good time in the process.


User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Thanks, TxAgkuwait. I've always wanted to try SWA, so i think i'll just book with them. We'll be staying in west hollywood, so burbank would seem like the best option. I LOVE LA! Really looking forward to it. Most Australians will tell you that LA is a hole, but that's because they never get to see much of it-they get shunted off to anaheim (which, let's face it..IS a hole) and Disneyland, without hanging out in many of the cooler areas. OK, kinda off the topic, so i'll stop now.


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