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User currently offlineBillElliott9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3802 times:

The top pic of yesterday was of a couple of UAL 7474s in the desert and part of the caption read ..."on the wings of N106UA it have a silver strip but not on N192UA wings, because N106UA is delivered to Northwest initially...."

Does anyone know the details? I didn't think NWA had ever gotten rid of any of its 7474s.

Thanks!

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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3776 times:

N105 & 106UA are -451's . I read that the only differance was the color of jump seats.


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User currently offlineBillElliott9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3640 times:

Thanks United Fan. So 105 and 105 were delivered to NWA and then went to UAL. It is true....you learn something new every day!

User currently offlineFavre From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 595 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

they were painted in nwa colors but never were delivered----


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Actually if you look closely at the 'top of yesterday' photo...one will see both 747-451s that were not delivered to Northwest. United bought these airframes on Boeing's tarmac in Everett when NW couldn't afford them at the time. They were to be NW's 15th & 16th -451s. Regards.


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User currently offlineBillElliott9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

Kind of ironic.....NWA chose not to take them because they couldn't afford them and then UAL ended up in Chapter 11. (I know those two airplanes weren't the sole cause of the Chapter 11)

Thanks for all of the info.

BE9


User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2980 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Here's the photo that sparked the discussion. the -451 is at the top of the photo, the -422 is on the bottom.

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Photo © Sam Chui



T.J.



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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1129 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

There is something really horrible about seeing hundreds of millions of dollars of valuable aircraft being parked in the desert and stripped for parts. These aren't old worn out L1011's or aged 727's but 744s!

There is something really wrong in the airline marketplace that things like that are occuring.



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User currently offlineIflewrepublic From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 537 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

As the younger generation says...


DUH!



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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2881 times:

It's my understanding that NW would've accepted delivery of the aircraft should they had to pay Boeing cancellation fees, but UA agreed to pay at least full list price for the aircraft (B744 were at a premium back then) and thus NW avoided the penalties and deferred their order (the four outstanding aircraft were delivered in 1999).

[Edited 2003-11-25 06:34:21]

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

Umm, Starrion....the aircrafts in question are not being stripped for parts. They're just merely parked (in storage) until the economic times improve for the airlines. I know of no 744 ever being scrapped. The few that were hull losses were salvaged for parts, but that's not the point. Regards.  Wink/being sarcastic


"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10816 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

As UA is returning their 744s to service and sending 777s to the desert in exchange what´s the current status? How many 744s are still parked, and how many 777s are now dumped (of cause only temporary)? And are there already a few that left for Thai Airways? They were supposed to receive 3 or so still this year!

Favre,
on the topic about the two 747-451s purchased by United a decade ago: Are you sure that they were painted in NW colours before?


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6638 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Any idea which ones are earmarked for Thai and which ones are for Corsair?

User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

I've flown on the NW gone UA 744's. Besides a different color "pleather" on the jumpseats, the crew rest in back is different too. Our usual 744 has 6 bunks and 2 business class seats (which the senior f/a's love) but on the NW model it's just 8 bunks. It makes the "treehouse" seem larger though with more open space in the middle!


The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
User currently offlineBillElliott9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2260 times:

A sincere THANK YOU for all of the great input/comments!

BillElliott9


User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

..."and how many 777s are now dumped...."

At last check United had 4 Triple7s at GYR
777-222 N766UA
777-222/ER N205UA
777-222/ER N207UA
777-222/ER N208UA



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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6339 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

I guess I need to take a trip on up to Goodyear on Thursday. Remind me to buy film, clean the lenses and check the batteries. I haven't taken a picture of any sort in almost 4 years, maybe it's time to return to life.


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
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