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SNA/LGB "regional Jet"-sided Aircraft  
User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

I remember reading somewhere that both SNA and LGB have many unused commuter and regional jet slots.

What sided aircraft constitute regional and commuter aircraft? Would the EMB-170 and RJ-85 fit under those guidelines?


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User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6396 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Regional spots, yes! Regional jets, no. The EMB-170, not actually an RJ is to heavy. The slots are for in the ballpark of 75,000lbs. Both of the aircraft you listed above are to heavy. The small planes like CRJ,EMB-135/145, and props I think to have more slots. Someone near LGB should be able to shed more light.

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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

I'm not up on SNA but LGB's limit has 25 slots for aircraft defined as "commuter" which the city defines as:
""Commuter" and "commuter carrier" means a scheduled carrier, certificated under FAR Part 121 or 135, operating aircraft having a certificated maximum takeoff weight less than seventy-five thousand pounds and transporting passengers or cargo."

Currently I believe only Horizon and America West Express are operating with those slots, but Horizon's will become free when AS replaces them.

The EMB-170 is listed with a MTOW of 82,673 lbs in the standard config and 85,517 lbs for the LR. Unfortunately both models are larger than LGB would allow under the commuter slots.

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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3241 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Horizon Air operates CRJ-700's between LGB and SEA using LGB commuter slots. Alaska takes over December 14 using 737-400 and 737-700. The original plan was for AS to operate the flights themselves, but they were unable to secure slots initially, so Horizon operated the flights until AS could acquire enough slots for themselves.

David / MRY

User currently offlineAaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2433 times:

There are no "unused commuter-slots" at SNA. FATFlyer's response on LGB is accurate. Those 25 slots are whats permitted under LGB's noise ordinance. SNA has a passenger cap that does not differentiate between commuter/regional/long-haul. Just a 'hard' limit on the passenger count.

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