SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3384 times:
I would think that they would look at Detroit, San Antonio, Charlotte, Raleigh & Cleveland as possible additions, but not neccessarily all of them.
Additionally I think they will look at JetConnect service for Bozeman, Billings,
Spokane & Sioux Falls, and possibly Calgary Edmonton & Winnpeg
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2062 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3233 times:
I don't think they would go into DTW...more or less go into either FNT or GRR. I think this because DTW already has 3 established carriers on this route (1 bein a LCC). They are kinda weak in the midwest here where they used to be really strong. I would think GRR or FNT would be the best choices for the Michigan area because it allows them to compete with those established carriers indirectly. They definitely have something going for them...I can't wait to see them come to somewhere close to my area!
MSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3249 times:
Unfortunately, the new Caribbean service would most likely be nonstop from Denver.
Good for people in DEN (funny, they already have adequte charter service to exotic destinations) and the west, but not so good for cities like FLL,MSY,TPA,MCO, all of which would make perfect stop over destinations for Caribbean service.
In the U.S, I'd look for cities like RDU,PHL,BOS or PVD,BNA,CMH, etc.
In Canada, YYZ,YUL,YVR,YEG, and YYC all come to mind.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 26574 posts, RR: 84
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3167 times:
Of course, you're right. For now, I'd guess that it will all begin and end at DEN.
F9 appears to be "testing the water" with it's expansion into something slightly different from the other LCC's.
With the exception of HP (which is a "convert" LCC), not many of the others are expanding much internationally.
BUT - by the end of this winter, they will start to have some idea of how much support the Mexican destinations get from, say, SMF or RNO or SLC. This could affect decisions on adding service from any of those or other cities, as non-stops.
Eventually, I'd be sure that they will add service to other cities that doesn't originate in DEN. If only because, at the present rate of growth, they're going to run out of gates at DIA within a couple of years. Again.
Also, at the moment, they're all leisure destinations. I'd like to see them add a "business" city, such as Monterrey, Mexico.
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3149 times:
I know for a fact they were already looking at PBI for a February start up. F9 already serves FLL, don't they? PVD would definitely be a good new city for them. There's currently no nonstop service in the PVD-DEN market, same goes for PBI.
SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3114 times:
I don't think F9 gets much support from SLC for their Mexican Service. Aeromexico started service in SLC sometime ago, because the Morris-Murdock Group who organizes Mexican Trips guaranteed them the traffic.
GARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2995 times:
As mentioned in a previous topic, F9 is definitely looking to Canada and
the North. YVR and ANC will most certainly be announced in time for
either the Spring or Summer schedule/2004. Jamaica/MBJ is also a very
strong probability with SJU also ranking high up there.
They arent setting up their aircraft for overwater status simply to cut the
flying time to FLL and CUN.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5895 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2931 times:
I understand that discussions between Frontier and Fresno are still going on but nothing firm yet for next year.
FAT does have the $1 million grant for a subsidy but I have to wonder if F9 might be a little leary of relying on a guarantee program after seeing ICT not develop. Different markets and I think Fresno will perform much better than ICT but F9 might be taking a very close look to be sure.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
Midway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2885 times:
RDU seems to be near definite from what I've been hearing. Talked to one of the F9 captains who said it was coming soon, though only one flight a day to DEN. F9 TV ads have also been appearing here as of recent. Guess they have found gate space here somewhere.
VectorVictor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2857 times:
It's kind of weird that they've overlooked San Antonio for so long. It is certainly one of the largest airports/metro areas west of the Mighty Mississippi that has not received Frontier service.
Per a Rocky Mountain newspaper article about United/Denver last spring...San Antonio was in the top four or five of United's Denver routes based on yield. Certainly that's due to United's total control of the SAT-DEN nonstop market.
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3443 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2731 times:
I'm hoping that they will choose PVD as thier New England city. F9's BOS experiance was much less than pleasant and I heard they have visited PVD in the past. I'm sure we're at least on the radar screen (so to say)!
SprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2475 times:
F9 will not have the CRJ option for them,as YV will thankfully be gone at end of '03. And, it is Jet Express, Jet Connect is FL.
Ever since YV took over the DEN-BOI for F9 in Oct, their on time has gone to crap,mainly due to mx delays. You should hear what the contract ground crews here for them,as well as F9 csas and mgr have said about YV crap service. I hear they want the '37s back in a major way! It will be nice to see QX CR7s take it over Jan 1,as well as 1 A319 on AM run. Then just 2 CR7s in Spring.
And isn't DEN-CUN a touch further than DEN-FLL?