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Working For UPS/FedEx At Same Time  
User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 990 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9890 times:

Anyone ever do this as in entry level position. UPS won't hire people fulltime for a split shift. So technically you could work at one at night loading aircraft and another in the morning unloading. What do you think?

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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9860 times:

No, it's called 'conflict of interests;' you'd be fired instantly. Unless your intentions were to keep it secret... yet it's still morally wrong, since all UPS employees are suppose to act as sale representatives for their company... kinda hard to sell your companies products while working for its biggest compeitior, don't ya think?

User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9831 times:

I can understand that for management. And not that I can or want to, it's just a question that has been in the back of my mind. I know for UPS we ship cargo and de-ice other cargo airlines' aircraft. And some work full time jobs for airlines like Continental and FBO and airline contractors. As unskilled labor, I wondered just about that situation.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 9780 times:

It's a conflict on interest, no matter what your job title is. For example, UPS charges higher ground shipping rates than RPS (a.k.a. FedEx Ground). Yet many consumers that switch to RPS return to UPS... why? Because UPS is more reliable. You working & doing a great job for RPS would actually be hurting UPS. The same applies to other air jobs -- Northwest, United, American, etc. are all big compeitors to UPS's same-day freight shipping, which is a bigger money maker.

It shouldn't take a genius to figure out that a UPS employee working for FedEx isn't exactly dedicated to his/her job (although he/she may excel at it)... if you work for UPS/FedEx/etc. and take up a job with a competitor, it's best to discuss it first with managment (they may OK you working for, say, Continental -- but get it in writing!).


User currently offlineUAL777CONTRAIL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9736 times:

SO Would you consider working for UAL and world wide a conflict of interest?

I know a guy right now that is doing it, and EVERYBODY knows it.

They wont do crap about it.


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9718 times:

UAL777CONTRAIL,
That's UA. UPS does indeed consider OAL to be compeitors, which equals a conflict of interest and is indeed grounds for termination. Doesn't mean it will happen (but working for FedEx will) but if you forget to blow somebody one day...

[Edited 2003-11-27 07:09:39]

User currently offlineUAL777CONTRAIL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9704 times:

HMMMM,ok, and now what? Major airlines can have employees working for rivals? I would like to see someone get fired for that.

I would bet they would get there job back, and explain to me why UPS or FEDEX would be so different?


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

UAL777CONTRAIL,
Most companies have policies that prevent their employees from working for competitors; it's up to the company to pursue any action against the employee... I know for a fact that UPS employees have lost their jobs for working for competitors -- if you work for UPS/FedEx at the same time, a grievance won't leave the building... it it's for another airline, you might have a shot at regionals or state... trust me on this!!


User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9683 times:
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I work for the United Stated Post Office and when they first hire they tell you that you can't work for any one else including local mailing places....

Conflict of intrest

Paul



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User currently offlineAirbrasil From Brazil, joined Nov 2003, 205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9613 times:

I have a friend that works for 3 airlines! He does Customer service for two and management for the third... I Believe that if the employee is reponsible and respectful enough it shouldn't be a major issue... Daniel

User currently offlinePenguinflies From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9581 times:

Paul...hehe..the government hates competition.

User currently offlineMarkus From United States of America, joined May 1999, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9565 times:

Quote from IndustrialPate
"For example, UPS charges higher ground shipping rates than RPS (a.k.a. FedEx Ground). Yet many consumers that switch to RPS return to UPS... why? Because UPS is more reliable."

Being that I am a manager for FedEx Ground I would have to respectfully disagree with the above comment...at least the last sentence. I guess I am a bit biased though. FedEx Ground is continually taking market share from UPS. Most of this is due to pricing and not service. The difference between UPS and FedEx Ground (service) on most overnight and 2-4 day ground shipping lanes is negligible. While FedEx Ground is growing and reporting record profits, UPS, at least in my area, is shrinking, reducing routes and reducing management staff. At my specific terminal we have gained 3 major accounts and approx. 2k daily packages as a result of last years potential UPS strike and our continued excellent service.

As far as working for both companies...In the FedEx Ground Code of Corporate Conduct there is a section that specifically states that you cannot work for UPS, or Airborne, due to conflict of interest issues. I personally have had the unfortunate experience of having to terminate an employee due to this.

Cheers,
Markus


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