AA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2 Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2704 times:
I am planning a trip this summer to India, and am curious on your thoughts as to the best carrier and class of service I can get. I have flown Air India before, and would like to avoid them at all costs. Who has the best business class cabin, and what can I expect to pay for it?
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2593 times:
You state that you wish to avoid Air India at all costs, but they do have the best deals in Business Class to India. I have flown their 744s twice in Business class and the savings of over $ 1500 more than made up for the lack of PTVs and flat bed seats (AI is about $ 3000 versus the closest competitor that charges $ 4400 R/T). Apparently they have flat bed seats now on the upper deck, and perhaps personal DVD players, so it may not be quite as outdated a product as I experienced in May of this year. Service is good, they keep your drinks constantly topped off, and the food is better than most carriers: not quite Singapore Air, but a lot better than United or Delta.
If cost is not a factor, then BA is your best bet, although changing planes at Heathrow can be an exercise in frustration with long waits resulting from terminal and taxiway congestion.
SR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1741 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
If you tell us, where you are going, we could give you some more details. Are you going to BOM or DEL or MAA?
As far as DEL is concerned, I would probably recommend Air Canada via Toronto.
#1. Air Canada ORD-YYZ-DEL
#2. British Airways ORD-LHR-DEL
#3. KLM ORD-AMS-DEL
#4. Lufthansa ORD-FRA-DEL
#5. Air France ORD-CDG-DEL
Besides the fact that Korean Air does not serve DEL, it would be too long to go the Pacific way anyway. I have done it myself, Orlando to Bombay via the Pacific, and I really would not recommend it to anyone unless it was absolutely necesary.
#1. Swiss ORD-ZRH-BOM
#2. British Airways ORD-LHR-BOM
#3. Lufthansa ORD-FRA-BOM
#4. Air France ORD-CDG-BOM
#5. KLM/NWA ORD-AMS-BOM
As far as the Kuwait Airways recommendation goes, I would stay away from them. Kuwait's Airport is bleak and lacks many of the charms of a European airport. Also Kuwait Airways is not all that high up in service. From my experience, the European airlines provide better service for better prices.
FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2417 times:
Don't forget about VS... don't they still operate to DEL?
In the end I'd probably opt for BA with the flat business class beds. It's quite a long trip (In the summer of 2001 I've done SFO-LHR-DEL a number of times in UA's first suite and even so it's still long enough to make one go mad!)
I can't wait for the day when UA announces service back to India. It's absolutely vital we serve that amazing country! The US has so many ex-patriots and the economic boom down there is very exciting! UA would be a perfect fit to cover SFO-DEL or ORD-DEL/BOM. I know that UA has dormant slots to Karachi, BOM and DEL via Frankfurt that we bought from PanAm.
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4943 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2377 times:
FA4UA...wouldnt it have been shorter for you if you had taken a flight from SFO to DEL via the Pacific like on CX SFO-HKG-DEL especially or even SQ SFO-HKG-SIN-DEL (this route maybe longer) but I would expect CX to take less time than your UAL route to DEL from SFO.
Oh and VS doesnt fly to ORD so thats out of the question unless he chooses VS from JFK or EWR (CO will fly him from ORD to EWR and then EWR-LHR-DEL 3 times a week A 340-300s...soon to be A 346s from Dec).
But on the whole if money is not a problem...then choose BA...if it is then go for Air India or Royal Jordanian.
Ams From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2351 times:
I would choose Royal Jordanian, since you will get a good seat in Crown
class on a A342 for the first 10 hours, and the flight Amman to India will
only take 3 hours. And you have great value for a good product.
Vimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1527 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
If you are looking for top of the line product opt for either LH/BA/KL for DEL and LH/BA/LX for BOM. Price-wise I'd recommend KU for both DEL / BOM (as you have already discounted AI). Forget them if you like a drink as they are totally dry. On the other hand if you are flying into BOM, KWI-BOM sector is an A300 with 18F/18J/196Y. However since no F/cl service is offered on this route all J/cl pax are seated in the F/cl cabin which are extremely spacious and comfortable. Connecting time in KWI is also not very much.
One word however for AI. I don't know why you had a bad experience with them, but I've just done a handful of J/cl long hauls with them and have found them excellent (even though I did not get to experience the new J/cl product). Food's top notch, friendly crew (don't go by their girth!), plenty to drink and the J/cl loos dont really get messed up like the ones at the back of the bus.
Sarfaroshi kii tamannaa ab hamaare dil mein hai, Dekhnaa hai zor kitnaa baazu-e-qaatil mein hai
Mog From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2099 times:
There are so many new things happening with aviation in India that by summer 2004 you will have a larger number of choices into India.
For good Business Class service, I would advise you to avoid the European carriers, however, and use one of the Asian/Far Eastern operators, for a variety of valid reasons, including more interesting stop-overs.
An interesting way to do it would be to use EVA from ORD to BKK via Taipei, and connect from there on Indian Airlines, enter through one city n India and exit through another.
Olympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2015 times:
I don't know what the accommodation is like, but the quickest way from ORD to DEL would be via Toronto. AC's new non-stop YYZ-DEL service is proving very popular and is already fully booked through January.