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Qantas Responds To Virgin  
User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2553 times:

Qantas released this statement in response to VS being granted the right to fly to Syd via Hong Kong. Confirming speculation here about what they really want..to fly Shanghai-LHR.
What do people think?
My understanding at the moment is that QF's 744s are pretty much tied up over the next few years with high frequencies on existing routes as well as LAX. All of their 744ERs have already been delivered and are working hard...where are they going to get the aircraft? The A380 doesn't arrive for ages yet.

Sydney, 28 November 2003

Qantas said today that Virgin Atlantic would become the 21st airline to offer services between the United Kingdom and Australia, following an air services agreement reached between the United Kingdom and Hong Kong.

The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Geoff Dixon, said he hoped that the positive outcome achieved in these talks would lead the United Kingdom to grant Australia the rights to operate between Shanghai and London, a route on which Virgin Atlantic operates four times each week.

"China has already given Australia the rights to fly between Shanghai and London," Mr Dixon said.

"At a time when Qantas is being denied an opportunity to compete with Virgin Atlantic over Shanghai, Virgin Atlantic has given the impression that there is little competition on the Kangaroo Route.

"In fact, the UK route is extremely competitive with around twenty airlines operating services between the United Kingdom and Australia including Air New Zealand, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, Japan Airlines, Lauda Air, Malaysia Airlines, Qantas, Thai Airways, United Airlines and Singapore Airlines, which owns 49 per cent of Virgin Atlantic.

"Qantas also competes daily with another 18 international airlines that operate on other routes to and from Australia.

"This decision highlights once again that Australia has one of the most liberal aviation environments in the world."

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User currently offlineLauda777 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2492 times:

Since when did Lauda Air fly MEL-LHR or SYD-LHR Geoff Dixon should get his facts right before he exagerates

We remind passengers all flights are non smoking, if you are caught smoking you will be asked to sit outside on the wing
User currently offlineBeno From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 428 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 2481 times:

QF31/32 would just go via Shanghai instead of Singapore a couple of times a week on it's way to LHR.

Works out about the same distance/flying time.

User currently offlineKa From Germany, joined Apr 2000, 681 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Lauda Air flies SYD-LHR + MEL-LHR with one planechange in Vienna. Just like flying with EK and changing planes in DXB (they also have another stop on the route then).


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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

Lauda777 -
Lauda Air / Austrian will quite happily sell you a ticket from SYD/MEL to LHR. Although it involves two stops, tickets are available. Indeed, they advertise their Australia-UK links on their web-page:
I am not a big QF fan, but Mr Dixon's comments is far more accurate than Mr Branson's who claimed that BA and QF enjoyed a duopoly on the route.

User currently offlineLauda777 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Ok I understand what NickofAtlanta and KA are saying as I flew MEL-BUD back in August this year via Vienna, however im sure Mr Branson was refering to direct flights as I was in my earlier post not connecting flights in which case he was correct the only 2 airlines with direct flights on the same aircraft are QF and BA.
So if VS does jump in we would have 3 direct flights, I think QF and BA are just having a sook as usual coz theyre scared of Virgin  Wink/being sarcastic

We remind passengers all flights are non smoking, if you are caught smoking you will be asked to sit outside on the wing
User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5538 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 12 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Hi Lauda777, I'm not sure I saw the bit were QF and BA were sooking?

All QF said was they were applying for Shanghai-London traffic rights...
A good business decision IMHO.

I also don't see the fuss in a one plane service. Even with 1 plane you need to disembark on the transit point, so who cares if it is the same plane??

I know I don't.


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