Lear777 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 290 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 4019 times:
From the release, they will be increasing IAH to nine weekly flights, with second flights on Friday and Sunday with 767-300ERs. The schedule has not been released so times are not available, but I'd be interested to see when they time this flight as not to interfere with Continentals 764 flight later in the day. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 5ish IAH arrival.
Either way, this means AMS-IAH has gone from seven weekly 74M to 16 weekly 763/764/74M in a matter of two years or so. Not too shabby.
I am hedging my bets on Air France adding additional frequencies in 2004. BA is already up to 17 weekly 777s.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3659 times:
I guess this is proof that the KL/NW and KL/CO code-share network is working better and better. MSP-AMS has been a very successful route, with major hubs at both origination and destination of the flights, and I guess that IAH-AMS is really taking off if extra capacity is needed. KL did just fine on the IAH-AMS route even before the link up with CO, and, now, with code-sharing, this route is linking CO's major hub with the KL network. CO has jumped around on the IAH-AMS route, introducing it with the 762, then quickly going to the 764 and then the 772 depending upon season (I think that CO swaps aircraft on one IAH-HNL flight and IAH-AMS depending upon season). I am surprised, however, that KL will use the 763 for the 2 extra weekly IAH-AMS flights, I guess that was all that was available due to scheduling.
CO is also upgrading its EWR-AMS flight to 772 equipment.
Its nice to hear good news and more service (for a change!).
Continental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5552 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3462 times:
Whew! That just made my day! It'll be awesome to see KLM back at MSP! I've never took photos of KLM, I bet it'll be great! I've seen the 747-400, and -200(or was it -300) here a few times a long way back, and now it'll be great to see the MD-11, yet alone have MD-11 service to MSP!
Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3357 times:
I remember when KLM first started service to MSP back in 1993 with their MD-11. I was really hurt to see those big blue planes leave back in 2001. I'll certainly make it out there now to catch them flying in again.
MSP service will be from March 27th to October 29th.
Lj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3302 times:
Slightly off topic but I just saw the initial slot requests and the second IAH flight isn't listed (but the MSP is). However the flights are already loaded. The MSP flight should become KL667/8 and the extra IAH flight KL663/4
Schedule KL 663/4
Dep AMS at 14:30 arr IAH at 17:20
Dep IAH at 20:05 arr AMS at 12:50
Dep AMS at 14:05 arr MSP at 15:55
Dep MSP at 17:55 arr AMS at 09:20
(schedules subject to change)
BTW SFO will get the 777 (in addition to the MD-11) and there is a small possibility KLM will return to ATL with a MD-11.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 37
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3282 times:
Very interesting. I assume that the oil business is a significant reason for KL's success into IAH. With success like this, I wouldn't be shocked to see a more extensive codeshare/partnership deal between KL and CO. That is A LOT of seats between those two cities.
Do not forget that CO operates a daily flight between IAH and AMS with a 762 and sometimes the 772.These flight are also code-shared
IAH-AMS is exclusively operated with 764 equipment.
Being the DFW homer that I am, I would love to see the connection numbers between DFW-AMS on NW/CO/KL flights. Although DFW does not have the oil presence that IAH does, the oil companies in Dallas are still relatively significant. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if DFW did recieve a service to AMS by KLM (763, M11?) at some point in time, especially after the new international terminal is completed. With the new codeshares between DL/CO/NW, it may only enhance the possibility.