Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
BA QUESTION: Service In Northern South America  
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

Hi,

I've always tried to keep fresh information on the changes that international carriers make on my country, Colombia. For some reason, I've lost track on how is British Airways operating curently from LHR or LGW to BOG.

Is it daily service? What aircraft operates the flight? (Until late 90s it was 744). What's the flight number? and if it's possible other characteristics...

Thank you very much.



EXPLORE SOUTHAMERICA

15 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Last time I checked, the service routed from LHR to CCS to BGO and return. Back then it was on a B763, though I seem to recall that it was operated by a B772 before.

It should also be daily flight.


User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

nope, 3x week flight! 767-300ER

User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Welcome to the A.net , Paisa. BA used to flight in mid-90´s with 747´s, then 777, but since 9.11, they reduced the capacity to 767´s. I had the opportunity to flight with them in 777, BOG-CCS-LGW. I think that was the only 777 that came to Bogota, so now, I´m afraid no airline has flights to Colombia anymore in those magnificent machines.


MDE: First airport in the Americas visited by the A380!
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Bongo,

Thanks a lot for the warm welcome. At least there ar now 2 of us.

Yeah, it's really a shame that the flight from London has downgraded so much. My father travelled with them in 1995 in the 747 - 400 and he said that the flight was full, without the stop in Caracas.

Well, something is better than nothing anyhow. At least the 767 have still several world tails.


User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3025 times:

I´m afraid they also doesn´t have World Tails anymore...Just the Union flag which is also nice. I hope the market gets better so they can bring here the triple 7 again.


MDE: First airport in the Americas visited by the A380!
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Does AA handle BA in BOG? I remember seeing a presentation that BA, at the very least, used AA's Admiral's Club in BOG for their premium passengers. I loved traveling to BOG on AA - the BOG-based flight attendants are very nice, right along with AV's - but I only once got to fly on AV's 767-300ER - wonderful flight.

Saludos!


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Erick Houli



User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

LatinAviation,

Good question. Now that I think about it, it would make perfect sense if AA is the one handling the BA flights. Right now, I think AA operates 3x daily flights from MIA to BOG, with A300, 763 and 757, though I'm not sure about a possible 4th service. Anyways, AA's BOG staff is way larger than most other international carriers.

Bongo,

Doing a simple search here in the photo database, you can see that there are very recent pics of 767-300 still in the "Colum", "Chelsea Rose" and even in the "Dalfbleu Daybreak" colors. These photos were taken just 9 days ago.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Philippe noret
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Philippe noret



Unless those 767 are only short-haul. But there are still in the world tails.

I think the 777 and 747 the ones mostly in the Union Flag scheme, even though there are couple left in the "Rendez-vous" and in the "Chealsea Rose" aswell.


User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Hola SOUTHAMERICA

Welcome on A.net
Well i´m just in Colombia.
I arrived last week her with BA from LHR!
Actually it was AMS-LHR with BA A319
and LHR-CCS-BOG with B763 on G-BNWV . Flight number was BA 0249
They do this flight 3 times a week.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Christian Galliker
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Philippe noret



I´m sad, last year i travelled with BA also to Colombia on their B772. They had PTV and good inflight service It was one of mine best flights to Colombia besides AV 762. I really miss them also!! My last flight of BA was normal and not something special
my mother travelled this year to Colombia with one of the last flights on their 772 an returned on the B763. She also told me that she miss the 777 because of good inflight service and aslo the B744. she travelled once with BA on this plane rom LGW to BOG without stopping in CCS. !!!!! That where the days to travel to Colombia!!

Really hope that they will change their planes into 777 again becuase its 100 times much more better

Saludos
Wimpycol



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2870 times:

Wimpycol,

Thanks for the welcome.

As I said before, I hope the market recovers and BA will be able to upgrade to a 777 again, even if it's not daily service.

A long time ago, it was a daily 747 - 400. Then they downgraded it to 777. After that came the reduction in the frecuence. Then the downgrade to 767 and 3xweek. I'm afraid that BA doesn't have any smaller long-haul equipment.. so next is....NOTHING.  Crying

But hope that never happens.



Federico.
EXPLORE SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 2846 times:

Hello Southamerica...
If Mr. Wimpycol is right, that means we still have World Tails in BOG , well that´s good news... I will check every time I fly to BOG.
In the other hand, I don´t consider a change from a B747 to a B-777 a downgrade... I think that´s an upgrade.... anyway both are wonderful airplanes and the worst thing is that nowadays we don´t have neither anymore in Colombia with the exception of a couple of cargo 747´s in SKRG and BOG.
Keep in touch



MDE: First airport in the Americas visited by the A380!
User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 2839 times:

Federico: I forgot to ask you, Do you know why this Ilyushin II-76 in the picture came to SKRG a month ago? it is not a regular visitor to our city !


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Andrés Dallimonti Restrepo


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Andrés Dallimonti Restrepo






MDE: First airport in the Americas visited by the A380!
User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Hola Federico.

I hope you will enjoy A.net alot. And maybe if you can take photos of Medellín - Olaya Herrera or Rionegro - José María Cordova and putting them on A.net or Jetphotos.net that would be great!!! There still alot of beautiful waiting to show the world how Colombia aviation is!!

I´m living in the Netherlands and was born in Colombia, but as baby went with my mother and father to Europe. So i was learned very soon howto love aviation and especially colombian aviation. Since 1996 i´m traveling every year to Colombia when possible. First with Avianca in 89 an 90 with 747-200 (the good old days) 91 with bad service Viaza DC-10 and 96 / 97 and 99 and 2000 again with Avianca with their 762´s. When Avianca had bad economic situations i flew with IB a340 and BA 772 and last week 763.
When possible I wil travel in Colombia by airplane between BOG and Cali, Manizales or Pereira with Avianca, sam. Aces (rip)

Last week I arrived in BOG tommorow i will leave for Pereira with AV Fokker 50
I cant wait to travel again!!!

Sorry guys back to the topic!
Federico I agree with you and really hopes that BA will upgrade their planes again to Colombia. We must be patiant!! I was told by BA that they stopped their 777 service this year so it was not the 9/11 problems (they still use their 772´s to their islands in the caribbean and Brasil) It was of bad economic situation over the last year in Colombia (less pax) and also the rare problems that Venezuela has with Chavez and now with their economy: so also less pax!!! They changed their 777 into 763 last spring. As i wrote my mother travelled to BOG with 772 and returnd with an 763! Since spring they only use the 763. I think when the economic situation will recover in Colombia and VEN, more pax will travel again with BA to CCS and BOG. And hopefully they will change again to their 772.
But my dream is that their will be an direct flight LHR-BOG on a 772 or 744. And in the future with Avianca again. This will become very hard becasue of their slots. I think that Avianca stopped service to LHR in 2000 but they could save their slots for a long time!!, But last year when the had big financial problems the sold their slots at LHR to BA. BA changed the CCS-BOG flight from LGW into LHR for better connections to their cotumers, like me, i now have a better flight connection to AMS. So if Avianca wants to have their slots bakc it would be impossible, the high costs and also busy LHR!! To enter LHR or leave you always must wait extra time because of an busy Airport

There are a lot of Latinos(Colombianos) in England, The Netherlands and Germany, maybe also scandinavia?? I think that BA can take a profit of it because LH don´t travel for along time to BOG and also KLM and belguim!! So i think that the service will be kept... after all these flights LHR BOG are always fully loaded and last months more Colombians than Venezualans!

Mr Bongo
When my mother travelled aslo with BA she always had World Tails into BOG. Its very special because BA is returing almost everything into the UNion flag!! I will give special intention to my back flight at the end of this month!
About really heavys(pax) into Colombia; At the moment only a340 IB and AF 767´s Avianca and BA (All from and to europa ) USA airliners only put in small equipment and Latin carriers Lan chile 767! (but i think you guys knows that better than I do)
Maybe in the future again 772 with BA and if we are lucky an a340-600 from IB. Its a dream but it can happen!!
yesterday i was at BOG eldorado airport with a good Colombian cracy aviatin friend of mine!! and i could´t beleive my eyes!! It was and its true I saw an 742 of IB landing infront of my and my friend!! I was to late to take a pic! Also was at puento areo!! so i could see it very clear.
Today i looked to the IB internet site and they will put their 742 until next wednesday!! So if your in BOG please take a minute to take a pic!! they arrived about 5 pm every day!! So a little heavy is finally back!! Its great to see that!!! But its only for an week i guess for overloaded pax coming to celebrate navidad etc!! Maybe next year at the same time an a340-600 because they will retire their 747 fleet!
For cargo Colombia gets 747 from Cargolux, Atlasair and dc-10 from ?? gemini?? and dont forget the nice dc-8 from tampa!!! I was told that they will get next year 4 or 5 762 so Tampa is going strong!!! Yes!! Thats what Colombia needs!! Now only Avianca!!

Mr Bongo
About your question of the Ilyushin II-76 that came to SKRG.
It was also very rear to me. Those russian airlines normally fly here in europe Asia and Africa. But my friend told me that this flight was an special delivery. It had an helicopter for an Colombian company or army?? If you want to more of it i can ask it again! At the end of the 90 also a big Russian cargo plane came to BOG for big deliveries!!! So i guess it was great to see and maybe hear (incredible sound) this plane coming into Medellin!!!

So this was a lot and i hope you enjoyed the information!!
Saludos
Willem Alberto!



Colombia... can't wait to be there again!!!!!!!!!!
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

Bongo,

Well, when I come to think of it, it's true what you say about passing from a 747 to 777 is not a downgrade. In fact, some people say that in many companies who have both types, the 777 are more of a "luxury" plane than the 747. I've heard that in some american companies 777 have even more seat pitch and legroom than the 747... so you are right.

The Ilyushin 76, as Wimpycol said, was here for a "delivery", only that not the type of delivery Wimpycol described. It arrived here in order to transport an old blue MI russian helicopter that was being used here in the Olaya Herrera Airport (EOH) to transport light cargo to nearby places. That airport really looked like a papaya. Though I don't know specifically where they took it to.

Wimpycol,

Thanks for your replies and comments. I really hope you enjoy your stay here.
I'm not very into the photography part, in fact, I don't even a decent camera to take pics with !  Sad

About the topic. It's really a shame that Avianca sold those lots at LHR. Right now, as you say, is nearly impossible to get one. That's the bad thing about LHR, flying there is not just as easy as saying "I want to fly there". That airport really needs that 3rd runway (If it's even possible to build it) and T5, but fast !.

About the world tails. Yeah it's a shame too they're passing by so quickly in front of our eyes. Even though it's a marketing strategy, I think they could at least left two or three schemes. I know, the Union Flag is fine and is the one that represents England, but I think they could have left the Chelsea Rose (England too) and Tartan Tail (Scotland) Oh well.

Thanks again for answering guys, and keep those replys comming !


EXPLORE SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Thanks SOUTHAMERICA and Wimpycol, nice to read your answers...at least we all 3 have something in common. About the pictures in SKRG... I'm not an expert in cameras also... and even more .. a few months ago I was at the beggining of the runway waiting for the presidential old "coffee maker" (that's the way we call the old Fokker FAC 001) and guess what: The police (with no uniforms and a private car) made me move !! so I think is a little hard to get nice pictures because of the int'l situation.
My second point: Did you guys see the last issue of "Motor"? Well they published an interesting article about the aviation during these 100 years, with some nice pictures and in the front page its a picture of the 7E7...if someone of you are interested I can send to you the magazine. And finally: I will fly in feb 2004 to Europe... and what can you recomend to me? My last trip..as I said before was BA 777, but now I'm thinking in MED-MIA and then MIA - Italy in Alitalia's 777, or maybe I will try BA 747 or AF 747...don't know yet.



MDE: First airport in the Americas visited by the A380!
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

Bongo,

Yeah, I'm also very glad to find people like you here... I hope we could communicate later on...

About the trip to Europe, I agree with you to divide the journey in two legs of the same length than to fly 20 min. to BOG and than 10 hours to Europe.

For an easy connection, I would fly MDE-MIA on AA and then MIA-LHR on the cool 777 or MIA-MAD on the 767.

For aircraft variety, I would definetly take the AA flight to MIA and then I'd be sure to book on IB's flight on the A340-600 !

Or another option would be AA to MIA and then BA to LHR. BA transatlantic service is known for being the best and you would be in the fabulous 747 - 400.

Regards


Federico
EXPLORE SOUTHAMERICA


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
CO In Deep South America posted Thu Dec 9 2004 16:03:47 by Hardiwv
Fokker 50´s In Middle / South America posted Tue Nov 30 2004 21:22:51 by Keesje
Delta Service In Northern New England posted Sat Aug 16 2003 04:44:31 by Zrs70
Essential Air Service In The South posted Sun May 19 2002 03:49:53 by Ramper@IAH
UA Question Concerning MIA And South America posted Mon May 21 2001 14:53:01 by Donc
BA/VS Check-In Question posted Thu Jul 20 2006 19:24:32 by Emirates773ER
World Cup 2014 In South America, EK Should Prepare posted Mon Jul 10 2006 14:15:32 by EK156
BA Summer Service Expansion In Seattle posted Sat May 13 2006 00:12:37 by DC10Widebody
787 Vs A350 In South America posted Thu Mar 30 2006 20:37:11 by Georgiabill
Help With Flights In South America posted Sun Mar 12 2006 00:38:17 by Flyboy_se