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User currently offlineTcfc424 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 517 posts, RR: 2
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9011 times:

Here in AUS, we have a single gate (7 I believe) that has a dual jetway for WN. When do they use this (I have never seen it used...watched a whole lot though) and why isn't this used for larger aircraft types...777, 744...etc? What other airports have dual jetways? I think I remember seeing a 747 boarding top/bottom one time, but I am not sure where. It was probably 15-20 years ago though...I was still kinda young...

Just a nice diversion from the "whos better" "which is better" "who has the best" topics....should create a "best of the best" forum...

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User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8937 times:

Do a search. About a month ago or so there was a big thread on airports with dual jetways.

NS



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8891 times:

Hope you could find something searching the forum...

It's usually common to find dual jetways at major and most modern airports. For example, the new superb terminal at MAD will have a lot of them. LHR, FRA, CDG just to name a few, aswell as several asian airports.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8887 times:

Most major airports have jetways.

Even many not major airports have them.

They've become quite common.

Regards



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User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8865 times:

Um....BA if you read the question, you'd find that it was not about single jetways, like you responded, but about dual jetways, you know: one way to board at the front, one at the back. Try reading before being an @$$h0!e!

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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1351 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8835 times:

I remember seeing dual jetways in JFK a few years ago, I believe it was the PanAm terminal. These were designed for the 747's and one jetway would go right over the left wing and access I believe the overwing exit.


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User currently offlineSkip7966 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8815 times:

LAX and SFO used to use dual jetways. Now those gates are served with smaller aircraft and are called gate XX-A and XX-B. In a book I have somewhere there's a picture of a terminal at SFO surrounded by 707s and DC-8s with jetways attached to both the front and rear doors. I had heard WN was going to experiment with dual jetways at some of their Texas stations to see if they would speed up the turn.

User currently offlineTed747 From Australia, joined Jul 2003, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8746 times:

Dual jetways are fairly common at the intl terminal in Sydney, but now also at the QF domestic termial for the A330's - but they are being taken off the domestic fleet and put into the intl fleet so not sure if the 767's will be able to utilise these....

User currently offlineB-HXB From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8704 times:

Dual jetways at Sydney's international terminal? Is that new?

User currently offlineTed747 From Australia, joined Jul 2003, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8683 times:

Not sure - not all the gates but the gate I used in 2002 to board a QF 747 had dual bridges, one for business class and one for economy but can't remember what the gate number was.

User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2394 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8671 times:

Ted, I've never seen or used a dual aerobridge arrangement at Sydney!

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8646 times:

Sydney's dual airbridges were specifically installed in sync with the delivery of the QF A330-200.


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The dual airbridge for a 737 requires careful lowering over the wing, and I heard WN was investigating them, but WestJet was the first to try it.

N


User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8640 times:

I used the dual jetway one night a few weeks ago on a flight from HOU to AUS. We arrived in Austin about 7:30PM, and since I was sitting in the back of the 737, I deplaned using the rear jetway. It doesn't really save that much time, since it takes them a few extra minutes to maneuver the dual jetway and connect it to the plane. Also, I've been told that one of Southwest's 737's was damaged a few months ago when one of the jetway operators hit a wing while trying to maneuver the rear jetway. You need to raise the jetway to different heights to clear a 732 vs 735 vs 73G wing, and I think they were using the wrong setting for the type of airplane they were connecting to when the accident occured.

User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2394 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8585 times:

I should have specified for Ted, I was referring to the ITB, Terminal 3 certainly has them, we park at them quite often with a useless bridge hanging in space, even on the 767-336.

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8558 times:

I have used the dual jetway at AUS several times; I think it is mostly used for DAL-AUS flights. I have only de-planed from it, I have never boarded with it (I don't even know if they use it for boarding). I enjoyed the convenience of it, because one of my pet peeves is airline passengers to take forever to get off the plane. However, if what KAUS said is true, WN might want to reconsider it.

I think the wide-body dual jetway concept, which is much different from the bridge at AUS, is probably more useful. Boarding a 777 through a single jetway is a nightmare sometimes, I can't imagine boarding a 747 or A380 through a single gate (does anyone know ... will all A380 gates have dual jetways?)



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8543 times:

Ted747 - are you sure of that? I am 99% sure there are no dual airbridges at Sydney's International Terminal. I have wandered around the place often enough, and I am sure I would have noticed them. I can't find any photographic evidence in any Airport Overview photos on this site, either.

It is rather unfortunate that the A330s are leaving domestic routes, given the money invested in the dual airbridges at Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane (and I am assuming they have them in Perth too). I wonder if these airbridges will be reconfigured (if that is required) to work with the ex-BA 767-300s, which have two left hand entry doors forward of the wing?

As for the question about the A380, Airbus has stated in a number of statements that it sees dual airbridges as being important to the fast turn around of such an aircraft. Passengers for the upper deck would board through the forward door, while those for the lower deck would board through the second door.

V/F



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User currently offlineEham From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8522 times:

Amsterdam (EHAM.AMS) has dual-jetways on the F and G-concourse

User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8506 times:

DTW has them for the WorldGateway Terminal. I don't believe I have seen a Northwest widebody there without using the dual jetway (747, DC-10, A333) though I am sure once in a while they do not use them.

I flew out of DTW last Thursday on a 752 out of one of the gates with duals. While they did not hook up both jetways at the gate, it was nice to load through the further one which was connected to the second door back on the plane. Unfortunately they did not do the same in BOS so I had to use my legs for the walk through first class cabin.



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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8399 times:

I knew that SFO had them, or maybe still does, at least in the United concourse. Gate 80, 81, maybe 82 in the north terminal rings a bell. It was all one single movable structure, but with two separate walkways...one for door 1 on a 747, and the other for door 2. Sometimes UA used them both, other times they used just the one for door 2.

Not sure if this is still common practice at SFO for United.


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4505 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8382 times:

DEN has them too on Concourse B for the United 777s.  Smile

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17537 posts, RR: 46
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8278 times:

I think you're all missing the point. Dual jetways on a 747,757,767,777,or Airbus widebody are very different from dual jetway usage on a 737. In the former case, both jetways access doors ahead of the wing, whereas in the latter scenario, you have one jetway in front of the wing, and one behind it. It's much trickier since you have that annoying wing in the middle and therefore much less common. Most airports that receive international flights have a few dual jetway bridges for widebodies but very few airports have dual bridges for aircraft with only two large exit doors separated by a wing. There used to be a lot more of them in the 707-DC8 era but they take up a lot of space and it's difficult to position a plane in and out of a stand for that kind of operation.


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User currently offlineSWAbubba From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8209 times:

Currently we (WN) have dual jetways that swing out over the wing at AUS, DAL, and ALB. The AUS and DAL ones are an older type that will not clear our winglets. The 2 at ALB are a newer design and will work with the winglets, they were just installed last week.

The last I heard the company is still evaluating the potential for adding more of the dual bridges. It does save several minutes off the deboarding/boarding process.


User currently offlineCmmcl3 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8107 times:

SWABubba - Can you tell me the gate numbers of the dual jetways at AUS and DAL? I'll be flying HOU-DAL-MAF at Christmas and want to check out and take pictures of the equipment. I flew a flight from HOU-AUS-MAF and they dual boarded the aircraft and I was amazed as I didn't know this was even being considered.

Chris


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8066 times:

And here we are like a bunch of yahoos with only 1 jetway in the whole yukon, if you dont get it then guess who gets to walk all the way to the front of the plane then go all the way down those monster stairs then believe it or not accually manage to walk all the way into the terminal and back upstairs... makes ya tired reading dont it eh.... ( I have never been on n aircraft hooked up with 2 jetways)


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User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8016 times:

I think that there may be a bit of confusion with regard to the term "dual" jetbridges. Indeed, many airports throughout the world have jetbridges with two arms, used on widebodied aircraft. One arm extends to the extreme forward part of the cabin for premium passengers (first/business). The second arm extends to the second door just aft of the wing for remaining passengers. This is illustrated here:


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However, there exists at some airports over-the-wing (OTW) jetbridges that extend all way to the second to the rear, or rear, door of the aircraft.


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As illustrated, JFK's Terminal 4 used to have these types of jet bridges, though they were hardly ever used in dual form. AMS does use these kinds of jetbridges regularly. Both WestJet and Southwest are experimenting with these types of jetbridges in order to decrease the time it takes to board and offload passengers. Southwest is piloting their use at Austin, and WestJet at Calgary. A really great link explaining this technology can be found here: http://www.dewbridge.com/products/otw.html


25 UALPHLCS : Planenutz Thank you for the dewbride website. For yers I've been trying to g=find on Anet a pic of narrowbodiy OTW bridges. UA has been very intereste
26 Rampboy77 : D = Doesnt E = Ever W= Work That is all I have to say ....
27 Skip7966 : The picture I saw of dual airbridges at SFO had the planes parked sideways to the terminal instead of nose in. Granted this was probably from sometime
28 Philaboy : PHL has a few in terminal A. BAck when USAirways didn't have the new International Terminal, all int'l carriers including US had to use terminal A. wi
29 Ckfred : Years ago, it was common to use 2 jet bridges to load 707s and DC-8s, but the plane was parked parallel to the concourse, which took a lot of space. I
30 Expressjetphx : About the OTW Dual jetbridges at JFK, can anyone explain why they seem too high to fit on any aircraft door and why they are enclosed in a concrete st
31 NorthStarDC4M : I once saw a brochure from MCDD about the MD-90 and one artists impression had a jetway at the aft door and going over the wing. The picture was remar
32 Goose : I think the reason that Southwest and WestJet can use dual bridges is that their 737s only have one galley, located in the front. For carriers like AA
33 Planenutz : Expressjetohx: The OTW jetbridges at JFK's T4 lower from their raised position. They remain elevated at the "elbow" directly over the wing. I tried to
34 Post contains links and images Pilottim747 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Miguel Snoep pilottim747
35 Polnebmit : I think NRT also has some gates that have Dual Jetways. I remember using one when boarded a flight JAL B-747-300 from NRT to BNE.
36 Post contains links and images Flyinghighboy : Have a look at the top left on this photo at AMS for a KLM MD-11 View Large View MediumPhoto © Peter Hulse
37 Post contains images RayChuang : I do know that every gate at SFO's new Concourse A and Concourse G sport dual jetwalks, given that they designed to serve 747-400's. The gates at the
38 Post contains links and images Planenutz : Here's a better pic of the OTW jetways at JFK's T4: View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael F. McLaughlin
39 Cmmcl3 : CKFred - All WN 73X planes I've flown on over the last ten years had a starboard aft galley. The flight I was on that dual boarded was from HOU-AUS-MA
40 WestJetYYZ : "I think the reason that Southwest and WestJet can use dual bridges is that their 737s only have one galley, located in the front." Actually WestJet d
41 SWAbubba : WN also has galleys on the right side at the front and rear. There is plenty of room for two provisioning trucks and two belt loaders on the right sid
42 Railmatt : I e-mailed the DFW airport board and they said NONE of the new gates at the new international terminal will have dual jetways.
43 Silkandsatin : Does anyone know how much WestJet or Southwest is investing to build their dual jetbridges?
44 Cmmcl3 : SWABubba - Thanks for the info. I took a bad picture that shows the aft bridge when the FA opened the aft port door on our 1-stop at AUS and let me ta
45 Goose : WestJet has paid nothing for the dual bridge in YYC - DEW paid for its installation and has since paid its maintenance. In fact, I was told WestJet go
46 Ted747 : Hi - is it possible that there is a single jetway that then splits in two closer to the aircraft? We were flying j class on a 747-300, we boarded firs
47 Tcfc424 : I will be able to post for certain what gate at AUS has the dual jetway, I will be flying AUS-IAH-LAS (on CO of course) so when I return, I will give
48 Cmmcl3 : Tcfc424 - That's great. Between us we'll nail down what's going on at AUS and DAL with dual board gates. It's interesting to me as a concept but also
49 Fiedman : I know that YYC has a single dual jetway attatched to the new terminal that Westjet uses Gate D50 I do believe. I have seen on occasion a Westjet 737-
50 SWAbubba : WN's dual boarding bridge system gates- DAL gate 8 - no -700's AUS gate 9 - no -700's ALB gates C-2 and C-3 - all WN aircraft including -700's with wi
51 Cmmcl3 : SWAbubba - Thanks for the confirmation. I'll take some pictures on my 12/22 HOU-DAL-MAF flight and submit them for inclusion in the database. Looking
52 Tcfc424 : Yes, AUS is gate 9...when I flew in (11:35pm CST 12/15) there was an a/c there (sorry, don't know the difference visually between the 737 types) and t
53 COAB767 : HNL has dual jetways, however they are used for International flights only. Not the HNL-US mainland flights with the exception of CO
54 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Here's a photo of WN's dual jetway at AUS. The rear part swings over towards the aircraft, then the part past the wing lowers until it meets the door.
55 Brons2 : I have boarded and deplaned from the back of the plane here in AUS. It's a nice option to have.
56 Post contains links and images Planenutz : Here's a cool pic of an OTW jetway at AMS (though not in full use). Look at the NW A330. View Large View MediumPhoto © Josep Manchado - IBERIAN S
57 Pgh234 : COAB767: I boarded a NW 742 (HNL-MSP) with dual jetways being used in 2000. pgh234
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