Tcfc424 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 517 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 3 months 6 days ago) and read 8831 times:
Here in AUS, we have a single gate (7 I believe) that has a dual jetway for WN. When do they use this (I have never seen it used...watched a whole lot though) and why isn't this used for larger aircraft types...777, 744...etc? What other airports have dual jetways? I think I remember seeing a 747 boarding top/bottom one time, but I am not sure where. It was probably 15-20 years ago though...I was still kinda young...
Just a nice diversion from the "whos better" "which is better" "who has the best" topics....should create a "best of the best" forum...
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2496 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8711 times:
Hope you could find something searching the forum...
It's usually common to find dual jetways at major and most modern airports. For example, the new superb terminal at MAD will have a lot of them. LHR, FRA, CDG just to name a few, aswell as several asian airports.
EI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8685 times:
Um....BA if you read the question, you'd find that it was not about single jetways, like you responded, but about dual jetways, you know: one way to board at the front, one at the back. Try reading before being an @$$h0!e!
AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1305 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8655 times:
I remember seeing dual jetways in JFK a few years ago, I believe it was the PanAm terminal. These were designed for the 747's and one jetway would go right over the left wing and access I believe the overwing exit.
Skip7966 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8635 times:
LAX and SFO used to use dual jetways. Now those gates are served with smaller aircraft and are called gate XX-A and XX-B. In a book I have somewhere there's a picture of a terminal at SFO surrounded by 707s and DC-8s with jetways attached to both the front and rear doors. I had heard WN was going to experiment with dual jetways at some of their Texas stations to see if they would speed up the turn.
Ted747 From Australia, joined Jul 2003, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8566 times:
Dual jetways are fairly common at the intl terminal in Sydney, but now also at the QF domestic termial for the A330's - but they are being taken off the domestic fleet and put into the intl fleet so not sure if the 767's will be able to utilise these....
KAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8460 times:
I used the dual jetway one night a few weeks ago on a flight from HOU to AUS. We arrived in Austin about 7:30PM, and since I was sitting in the back of the 737, I deplaned using the rear jetway. It doesn't really save that much time, since it takes them a few extra minutes to maneuver the dual jetway and connect it to the plane. Also, I've been told that one of Southwest's 737's was damaged a few months ago when one of the jetway operators hit a wing while trying to maneuver the rear jetway. You need to raise the jetway to different heights to clear a 732 vs 735 vs 73G wing, and I think they were using the wrong setting for the type of airplane they were connecting to when the accident occured.
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8378 times:
I have used the dual jetway at AUS several times; I think it is mostly used for DAL-AUS flights. I have only de-planed from it, I have never boarded with it (I don't even know if they use it for boarding). I enjoyed the convenience of it, because one of my pet peeves is airline passengers to take forever to get off the plane. However, if what KAUS said is true, WN might want to reconsider it.
I think the wide-body dual jetway concept, which is much different from the bridge at AUS, is probably more useful. Boarding a 777 through a single jetway is a nightmare sometimes, I can't imagine boarding a 747 or A380 through a single gate (does anyone know ... will all A380 gates have dual jetways?)
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 47
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8363 times:
Ted747 - are you sure of that? I am 99% sure there are no dual airbridges at Sydney's International Terminal. I have wandered around the place often enough, and I am sure I would have noticed them. I can't find any photographic evidence in any Airport Overview photos on this site, either.
It is rather unfortunate that the A330s are leaving domestic routes, given the money invested in the dual airbridges at Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane (and I am assuming they have them in Perth too). I wonder if these airbridges will be reconfigured (if that is required) to work with the ex-BA 767-300s, which have two left hand entry doors forward of the wing?
As for the question about the A380, Airbus has stated in a number of statements that it sees dual airbridges as being important to the fast turn around of such an aircraft. Passengers for the upper deck would board through the forward door, while those for the lower deck would board through the second door.
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AZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8326 times:
DTW has them for the WorldGateway Terminal. I don't believe I have seen a Northwest widebody there without using the dual jetway (747, DC-10, A333) though I am sure once in a while they do not use them.
I flew out of DTW last Thursday on a 752 out of one of the gates with duals. While they did not hook up both jetways at the gate, it was nice to load through the further one which was connected to the second door back on the plane. Unfortunately they did not do the same in BOS so I had to use my legs for the walk through first class cabin.
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8219 times:
I knew that SFO had them, or maybe still does, at least in the United concourse. Gate 80, 81, maybe 82 in the north terminal rings a bell. It was all one single movable structure, but with two separate walkways...one for door 1 on a 747, and the other for door 2. Sometimes UA used them both, other times they used just the one for door 2.
Not sure if this is still common practice at SFO for United.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16766 posts, RR: 48
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8098 times:
I think you're all missing the point. Dual jetways on a 747,757,767,777,or Airbus widebody are very different from dual jetway usage on a 737. In the former case, both jetways access doors ahead of the wing, whereas in the latter scenario, you have one jetway in front of the wing, and one behind it. It's much trickier since you have that annoying wing in the middle and therefore much less common. Most airports that receive international flights have a few dual jetway bridges for widebodies but very few airports have dual bridges for aircraft with only two large exit doors separated by a wing. There used to be a lot more of them in the 707-DC8 era but they take up a lot of space and it's difficult to position a plane in and out of a stand for that kind of operation.
SWAbubba From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8029 times:
Currently we (WN) have dual jetways that swing out over the wing at AUS, DAL, and ALB. The AUS and DAL ones are an older type that will not clear our winglets. The 2 at ALB are a newer design and will work with the winglets, they were just installed last week.
The last I heard the company is still evaluating the potential for adding more of the dual bridges. It does save several minutes off the deboarding/boarding process.
Cmmcl3 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 7927 times:
SWABubba - Can you tell me the gate numbers of the dual jetways at AUS and DAL? I'll be flying HOU-DAL-MAF at Christmas and want to check out and take pictures of the equipment. I flew a flight from HOU-AUS-MAF and they dual boarded the aircraft and I was amazed as I didn't know this was even being considered.
CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 5 days ago) and read 7886 times:
And here we are like a bunch of yahoos with only 1 jetway in the whole yukon, if you dont get it then guess who gets to walk all the way to the front of the plane then go all the way down those monster stairs then believe it or not accually manage to walk all the way into the terminal and back upstairs... makes ya tired reading dont it eh.... ( I have never been on n aircraft hooked up with 2 jetways)
Planenutz From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1281 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7836 times:
I think that there may be a bit of confusion with regard to the term "dual" jetbridges. Indeed, many airports throughout the world have jetbridges with two arms, used on widebodied aircraft. One arm extends to the extreme forward part of the cabin for premium passengers (first/business). The second arm extends to the second door just aft of the wing for remaining passengers. This is illustrated here:
As illustrated, JFK's Terminal 4 used to have these types of jet bridges, though they were hardly ever used in dual form. AMS does use these kinds of jetbridges regularly. Both WestJet and Southwest are experimenting with these types of jetbridges in order to decrease the time it takes to board and offload passengers. Southwest is piloting their use at Austin, and WestJet at Calgary. A really great link explaining this technology can be found here: http://www.dewbridge.com/products/otw.html
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