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User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7927 times:

This is my first post on Anet. I've been observing discussions for months and I finally decided to dip into my student strapped bank account. I was wondering though, AA has had the same paint scheme for decades, since the '70s I think, and it seems as though most airlines tend to update their livery every 10-15 years, or every 3 years in DL's case, but does anybody know if AA plans on keeping this well into the future, I love their schemes and I miss the big silver birds here in BUF.


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7860 times:

I, like you, have been observing for months also. So, Like you, yesterday I made the same decision.

So I'm gonna throw you a bone by replying to your topic...

AA has no future plans that I have heard to repaint those beautiful a/c.

Here in DEN, when the ground is covered in snow, it reflects off of those birds like a diamond.

DLKAPA


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7834 times:
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Welcome to both of you. In the past this has been brought up and people feel very, and I mean VERY strong and passionately about AA's paint scheme. I myself would like to see it updated at some point, yes I know that money is TIGHT, tho once they weather this current cycle, they should look a freshening up the timeless look.


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User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7797 times:

Their silver metallic livery is certainly a classic. I think because they don't have as much paint on their planes as part of their livery, there are actually savings in fuel costs because the planes are lighter. This MAY be part of the reason why they haven't changed...plus, also, their financial situation, like many of the US majors, isn't too healthy.
Welcome to the forum, both of you. I joined only 2 weeks ago and I find it a strangely addictive forum. Great for venting and expressing opinions that normal 'civilians' wouldn't understand.
cheers,

Qantasclub.



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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7752 times:

This is my last post for tonight, school tomorrow...

Quantasclub, this is a very addicting forum...

Can we get an AA 777 here in DEN?  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7750 times:

It is quite addictive. I would add on top of this, I think its that AA on the tail. The contrasting colors are gorgeous. And those old 727's, ahh I remember when I was a kid, and AA was in RDU, BUF had daily 727's down to RDU, quickest way to get to Florida from BUF was on AA. Those days are surely missed, nothing like heading west to ORD before heading south on a 3 hour flight.


The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7727 times:

"I think because they don't have as much paint on their planes as part of their livery, there are actually savings in fuel costs because the planes are lighter."

Yes, but I can almost guaran-damn-tee you that those savings get pumped into polishing that chrome into what we know as silverbird today.

UAL747


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4001 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7623 times:

"Quantasclub, this is a very addicting forum"

Uh oh....Looks like someone put that unforgivable 'u' in Qantas again. Not a good idea on this forum  Wink/being sarcastic Regardless, welcome to the forum.

Thomas



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7452 times:

Hey Buffalo? How's the weather? If you like the livery of AA, get the book called "Silverbird" or "Silverbirds." I have it and it has lots of pictures of their aircraft from start to current. It is also informative (although I bet Skip7966 would not agree). And yes, A.net is addictive, study first then play on the computer!!!!


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User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

New Paint Job = Cost of Paint + Extra Weight on Plane = More Money for AA = Bad for Earnings

Plus, there's no point in updating such a beautiful and classic livery anyways.


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1972 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7395 times:

Don't forget that Singapore Airlines hasn't changed their livery at all since the 70s either.... with the exception of a few lines on the plane.


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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7332 times:


American Airlines better NOT change there colors!


Updates aren't always a good thing, especially now days. I would hate to see them reduce themselves to a white fuselage & painted like half of the airlines in the world.


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User currently offlineEK345 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7305 times:

Well I am number 3 today i guess... I have been watching the posts for about 6-7 months now and have been coming to this site since it went up. So when I saw the first two posts were people who had joined I thought it was about time... anyway, glad to be onboard. AA - nice color scheme but I think it is pretty outdated... needs a change in my opinion.

EK345



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39906 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7267 times:

Outdated?
Not even.
It's timeless. It's classy. It outshines all other airlines at any given domestic airport.

I am glad the top brass at AA will not change it.


BTW, AA went to the current (hopefully permanet) colors in 1968.  Smile



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User currently offlineNwacrew From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7240 times:

I've always admired the polished silver fuselage on American Airlines' planes.

But the triple cheatline and A"A tail logo could use some updating.

Look at all the excited feedback on Airliners.net whenever a carrier adopts a new livery. Change is exciting, and after several terrible years, American could use some positive excitement.


User currently offlineQantasclub From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 757 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7169 times:

The next person who spells QANTAS with U like QUANTAS will have his membershop revoked. It's official. (i've had 'a word' to the administrators)

As for classic liveries, Qantas hasn't changed it's present one for about 20 years and it still looks as good as ever. Distinctive and instantly recognisable. Gotta love those red tails!



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cheers,

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User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7150 times:

While AA has a classic scheme. I'm a TWA fan. I get a sick little smirk on my face anytime I see a 757 with red showing because the gray paint is peeling.

I think that the Retrojet scheme is incredible. That red cheatline on the 757 really looks sharp. I would have no complaints if they figured out a modernized logo for that look.

Welcome to the fourm everybody. I was pretty shocked to find out that there are others out there with the hobby(addiction) that I have.



DMI
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5404 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7092 times:

I've always loved AA's scheme. It's one of those timeless classics that you just don't change. Just because something is 'old' doesn't mean it's outdated and needs to be modernized. Do you see people complaining about how Fenway Park should have a retractable dome? Do you see people saying the Chevy Corvette should undergo a radical redesign?

Alas, however, as more and more composites are used throughout aircraft bodies, AA will have to move to another c/s, as there may not be a lot of metal TO polish.



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

I have had the pleasure of seeing the AA Retrojet 737 on the ground at IND for a few hours one night (obviously a divert). I have about a roll of film somewhere around the house. I think (wish) AA should keep their current livery (for cost sake, simplicity sake and for good ol' nostalgia sake) and have those few Retrojet schemes for photo opportunities.


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User currently offlineKingsford From Belgium, joined Nov 2003, 427 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

Hi folks,

Regarding AA, Superfly wrote :

'It outshines all other airlines at any given domestic airport'

I think quite the contrary AA planes look like they belong to another age, and some do actually. I am afraid this reflects the overall service approach of that company as well. Another airline which has the silver metallic look is Aeromexico but it somewhat looks much better.

Quantas : Queensland 'Upidoodah' And Northern Territory Aerial Services  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

I agree with most of the posters here. AA should never change its livery. When we say it is a "timeless classic," it's just that -- timeless. I could see them tweaking a bit with the "AA" logo, and perhaps adding a new "AA" logo to the fuselage instead of "American," but there will likely never be any change to the polished bare-metal color scheme.

I, for one, am glad that my airline of choice has a classic and consistent color scheme instead of changing every few years ... which, as we all know, results in having up to four different schemes in the livery at one time ... you know who I'm talking about.



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User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

ok it's good to see this was just a question. I am soooo relieved..!!!

As much as sometimes one gets tired to see so much AA here at Miami, I can't imagine seeing so much of any another airline w/out getting sick. Yet, nowadays seeing that so many airline identities are undistiguishably boring; it makes me appreciate their unique, yet simple livery more than I ever have.

There is something about classic color schemes that makes you stop and look, even if you've seen them a 1000 times before. If it's not the sun shining on the polished metal, it's the blue sky reflecting on the fuselage, but there is always new to see. Is even good for photographers: you don't need a low sun angle to get a decent shot of this memorable scheme.

I think quite the contrary AA planes look like they belong to another age, and some do actually. I am afraid this reflects the overall service approach of that company as well. Another airline which has the silver metallic look is Aeromexico but it somewhat looks much better

Yes, another age where aviation was more glamorous than it is today? Certainly something from the distant past. As for Aeromexico, the colors to compliment the metallic fuselage are rather dull. In fact I beg to differ, I believe it looks worse and these colors don't represent the country at all. Probably the only metallic livery that doesn't stimulate my visual sense..

regards
M.R.



User currently offlineZrb2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6521 times:

Hey KBUF, welcome to the site. I'm originally from BUF and fly into there several times a year. I too miss the shiny AA livery. The white ERJ Eagle jets just don't cut it. If you want to see a shiny bird, go over to BUF on Saturday Dec.20th sometime in the afternoon. That's when the Miami Dolphins would normally fly in for the Sunday game (on the 21st). They usually charter an AA 767-300. It's always nice to see it parked at gate 1.

On another note, keep us posted on any happenings at BUF. There's a pretty good WNY contingent on this board. Later!


User currently offlineJfazzer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 157 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6418 times:

Has any one noticed that the composite sections of AA's A300's are a plain grey colour rather than polished silver, (for obvious reasons)
It makes you wonder what AA will do if they order the 7E7, and Boeing make the fuselage from composites as they have proposed.
I can't see AA operating these without some form of livery change, otherwise they will begin to look a little like Asiana's fleet. (he he eh)
Welcome to the site by the way!


User currently offlineKBUF737 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6375 times:

Hey guys, thanks for all your warm welcomes. Glad this didnt turn into a this is better than that forum. Things in BUF are good for those of you interested. A bit chilly this morning but hey, we deal with it up here. As for having ERJ's come into BUF and alot of mid-sized airports especially upstate? is this to improve frequency yet maintain load factors, or has the market suffered that much in the last few years? I noticed AA, and DL are both just AE and Comair services now? Any ideas? Thanks

Peace. and Happy Holidays to all.



The tower? Rapunzel!!!!!!
25 Ord : I for one don't mind the AA livery in general. However, I have one big problem with it. In the 60s, 70s and even 80s the livery looked good because th
26 Jfazzer : Hi ORD, You just repeated my sentiments exactly (see reply 23) Nice to see great minds thinking alike!
27 Post contains images Sushka : I like the AA livery a lot. I dont want it to ever change. It is a classic. Welcome to Airliners.net
28 B747FAN : I agree with you Ord. Especially the composite radome looks terrible against the silver. Maybe they should widen the cheat lines to cove the entire no
29 Post contains links CaboVerde : I ahve seen on http://www.liladesign.com some previews of the new AA c/s it they come with a new one.
30 Post contains images AirJamPanAm : Welcome to the forum all you "newbies" A word to the wise which I think should be included in the welcome email. Paint schemes when It comes to any ai
31 AirJamPanAm : Humble apologies to Mexicana devotees, I meant Aeromexico!
32 Mikey711MN : Personally I'd like to see the American Eagle scheme brought a little closer to the existing AA scheme, which is beautiful and timeless regardless of
33 AApilot2b : As someone has already stated, this is a passionate topic for many people. I personally love AA's scheme. It says everything about the airline. It is
34 Post contains images RayChuang : AA isn't going to change their livery anytime soon. The fact it's WAY cheaper to apply an anti-corrosion coating on bare metal instead of painting the
35 Zrb2 : As for having ERJ's come into BUF and alot of mid-sized airports especially upstate? is this to improve frequency yet maintain load factors, or has th
36 Bruno : Leave it alone! Just leave it alone DAMN IT !
37 LMP737 : AA's current paint scheme is timeless in my opinion. No need to change it now. Then there's the fact that their employees are really in no mood to see
38 B727 : Welcome KBUF737 I agree they could use a touch up maybe not a whole new look but perhaps freshen up the tail logos. Its nice to have a fellow member i
39 Ord : "The fact it's WAY cheaper to apply an anti-corrosion coating on bare metal instead of painting the whole fuselage means AA won't have to saddle every
40 Post contains images Bruno : Should the United States 'update' it's flag because it's old? Should the Louve get a 'updated' face lift? Should The Great Wall of China get a 'new an
41 Ord : Actually, BMW has changed its logo many times over the years: http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/slash_2/emblem.htm
42 Psa53 : I'm sure this has been said since there are so many entries: For the most part,AA are great Don't change the basic.But do a makeover(update). Like pai
43 DCA-ROCguy : Welcome new members! I'm part of that Upstate NY contingent Zrb2 mentioned; I'm from Rochester though I now live in DC. Like Dan I enjoy hearing any n
44 MIAMIx707 : sadly it'll be changed or "modernized" most likely for the worse in either case. Thats why I take pictures. After seen their new colors a few times, i
45 DLKAPA : Just for grins... quantas... HA! actually I would have to agree with everybody who thinks that an all white fuselage with tail logo is boring. Extreme
46 Trayfam : My first time, too. I do branding and design work for a major carrier, and have to admit that eventhough American's service, personality, and even the
47 KBUF737 : Ok, this term paper is getting to me, so here's my thought on the colors matter. Something completely radical, and completely ridiculous, but what abo
48 DLKAPA : KBUF737 That would make a great special paint scheme, dont get me wrong, but it would be way to expensive, expecially on the wings where the paint wou
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