Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1317 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6757 times:
I have a bad feeling that American Airlines is interested in buying Alaska Airlines! They do codesharing flights now. AA had Codesharing flights with all airlines before buying them out (PSA, Reno Air, TWA, Midway etc.).
Even the fleet of MD-80`s and B-737 would fit in the AA fleet and the Network would fit as well. I do hate the thought about AA taking over AS as AS is a very fine airline and should not be merging with (stupid) AA !
Hated to see my favorite QQ and TW disappear:"AA leave AS alone!"
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6708 times:
Considering AA's experience with the TWA merger It will be a cold day in hell before a merger with Alaska happens. Besides, it's not like AA has the money right now. AA has codesharing with Hawaiian, does this mean they are getting ready to buy them?
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6686 times:
Given that AA's current financial condition is one step (or maybe two) ahead of Ch. 11, I don't see how they could even contemplate such a merger at this time, since there are many costs associated with such a transaction.
Like UA/US, I would reasonable expect the current code-sharing relationship to continue as-is for the foreseeable future.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6630 times:
AA didn't buy PSA either, USAir did. And AS codeshares with NW as well. I think you need to look a little more closely at AA financial shape. I don't think any airlines are going to merge anytime soon.
Flyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6619 times:
AS also has a big code share deal with NW and CO. Probably soon to be with DL as well. So it is cheaper for a code share deal rather than a merger. Plus who can afford to buy anyone anytime soon? I think your AS with stay just that AS. I have flown them as well from PHX to PVR. What a great airline.
FedExHeavy From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6554 times:
PSA was bought and dismantled by USAir. As far as mergers are concerned I don't see it, AA has less than a stunning financial situation right now and mergers create problems with unions and trying to interstate Alaska's people in with AA if they choose to do so and American simply does have the money to do this. So I wouldn't worry, expect the Eskimo on the tail to continue flying high for a long time, go AS!
Have a nice day
Searpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6544 times:
This is a rumor that will not die. I remember once in 1987 - PRIOR to the AirCal buyout, the news was all over SeaTac that Bob Crandall would be in town the next day for an "important" announcement. Of course we all "knew" that it was to announce the purchase of AS.
I learned a long time ago to never say never in this industry, but bottom line, as others have said, AA is in no financial shape to buy another carrier. Add to that, two failed attempts to build a North South presence on the west coast, there recent draw down of SEA service, and I just don't see it happening.
"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6427 times:
Hey, AA codeshares with BA, Gulf Air, and LanChile too -- maybe they'll buy them out as well! After all, AA is just flush with cash at the moment.
Also, AA did not codeshare with TWA before it bought them out. It kept TWA running for a while after the buyout, but that's it. Like Flyguyclt said, it is cheaper to codeshare than to merge or acquire, that's why airlines do it. Codesharing is almost always used as a substitute for mergers, not a precursor.
Everyone else also brought up the most valid point, however -- there is no way in hell AA could get the financing to buy Alaska, US Airways, JetBlue, AirTran, Joe's Crop Dusting Service or any other airline that's been rumored on this board. It simply won't happen anytime in the near future.
SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6249 times:
AA bought AirCal, and I don't think there is much left of their route structure at AA. They bought Reno Air, and there isn't anything left of that route structure now, and they are now chopping TWA's route structure out of their system. Can't imagine that they would want AS, since they run essentially the same routes (albeit not as broad) as what AirCal and Reno Air did.
AA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6233 times:
Simply put, why buy the cow when you can get the mild for a code share agreement? Buying AS, beyond being financially impossible, would reek havoc on seniority lists - and ignite labor disputes that would cause serious damage to AA. AA has ZERO intent to buy AS anytime soon.
AAnalyst From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5978 times:
Lets not forget that AA codeshares with Asiana (OZ) and EVA (BR). We've been looking for a way to start flying into the Pacific Rim. You never know, we might just buy both of them, and become one of the largest carriers in Southeast Asia!
Knowledge is Power. Power Corrupts. - Study Hard, Be Evil
Shenzhen From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 1712 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5785 times:
One can't rule anything out. If Alaska and American feel they can compete better as an single entity, why not. It really costs American zero cash if they merge and replace Alaska's stock (say 20 percent premium) with American.
Just get shareholder approval and print new stock certificates. Down the road, take a goodwill right off for the 20 percent premium.
Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5714 times:
I know that NW, DL, HA is codesharing with Alaska Airlines as well, but almost everytime AA was codesharing with another northamerican company (QQ,CP,TW,AirCal etc,) they were later taking them over. I didn`t say about foreign carriers.
: Even if AA bought AS, which will not happen, there is no way the government would approve the merger. They didn't approve the UA/US merger because Uni
: AS's management has been zealous in remaining outside of any merger frenzy. The AA-AS rumors go back to the late 80s. It would be a nice addition for
: I am trying to think back, but I don't think Alaska has bought anybody out since the 80's when they aquired, shoot can't remember the name, but that c