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User currently offlineZionstrat From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 226 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3079 times:

My mother has had a lifelong dream to visit Rome and as she approaches her 70th birthday, our family would like to make this wish come true in May or June of 04- The primary reason she has not gone before is she has a condition that causes extreme muscle cramps if she does not move around regularly- So cattle class has never been an option and we wanted to look into the best deals and opportunities for 1st class.

She'll be leaving RDU, so I'm assuming that JFK or ORD are likely candidate departure points. Would appreciate your input on options available and potential costs. I'm always stuck in the back when I cross the pond, so details on bed types and related info would be particularly helpful.

Big thanks in advance


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User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

You may want to try the following options-

American Airlines
RDU-ORD
American Airlines
ORD-FCO

American Airline
RDU-JFK
American Airlines
JFK-FCO

American Airlines
RDU-LGW
British Airways
LGW-FCO

Delta Airlines
RDU-CVG
Delta Airlines
CVG-FCO

Delta Airlines
RDU-JFK
Delta Airlines
JFK-FCO

Delta Airlines
RDU-ATL
Delta Airlines
ATL-FCO

Continental Airlines
RDU-EWR
Continental Airlines
EWR-FCO

US Airways
RDU-PHL
US Airways
PHL-FCO

American Airlines
RDU-JFK
Alitalia
JFK-FCO

American Airlines
RDU-BOS
Alitalia
BOS-FCO



Regards,


LHR001


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

- "So cattle class has never been an option and we wanted to look into the best deals and opportunities for 1st class.

She'll be leaving RDU, so I'm assuming that JFK or ORD "

JFK would be out of the question since the only flights from RDU-JFK are ERJs, from personal experience they are tight.

CO flies 737s from RDU-EWR, and 767-400s from EWR-CO / LIRF), Italy">FCO and MXP. They have Business First flat beds, in coach the 767-400s have Ptvs etc..

RDU-EWR-Italy would be the most direct and comfortable way to go, same terminal connection at EWR.

RDU-ORD-Italy seems like going way too far away to connect, plus you would have to change terminals.

Flying CO through EWR you have a seemless connection right in Terminal C, both ways since CO has their own IAB at Terminal C-3 concourse.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5080 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

Zionstrat:

I'd go with AA for your mum, simply because she will have More Leg room in economy, and will make for a more comnfortable journey.
BA European flights, are also quite comfortable.. and I have found the service/standards to be much improved of late.

ANstar


User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2854 times:

Alitalia's Magnifica Class (sort of Business/First) on their brand-new 777s is quite nice and you can get it nonstop to FCO from JFK for a reasonable fare if you go through a consolidator. Check around on the web.

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4731 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2834 times:

Alitalia flies 777's usually (not sure if they're sched for AMJ '04) from EWR-FCO as well...

my recco is to fly to JFK and then connect onto AZ 611...they're flagship route.

-g



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Zionstrat:
Give your mother the full Italian experience and put her on Alitalia.

AA is great for trips to Chicago an Delta is great for trips to Atlanta but to Italy?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Just to add on to Superfly's comment, Alitalia gives you the experience of Italy full on, from the minute you step aboard...The food, the wine, the coffee, the entertainment -- even the attitude (but increasingly it's no different than the attitude you'd get from harried FAs on US carriers)! Before they got the 777, they were a little behind in what they could do with onboard services particularly IFE, but if you can get Magnifica on the 777, to Italy it doesn't get any better....Oh, and you also get SkyMiles...

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

Put her in Alitalia first class... What a good son!


Go big or go home
User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

http://www.alitaliausa.com/services/magnifica.asp
che bellissimo, che italiano!! mama will be molto felice!


User currently offlineILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

Too bad you couldn't go ORD-FCO non-stop on Alitalia...they only fly to Milan from ORD now. Anyone know what the reasoning is behind this? I realize Milan is the business center of Italy, but you think for reasons, such as the one this post mentions (namely tourism; and Rome is a huge tourist destination), AZ would still maintain ORD-FCO flights...?


Backhanding the left into submission, one activist judge at a time.
User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Without a doubt, I'd go on US. The 333 + US transAtlantic service. Can't beat it in my opinion.

NS



United 717 heavy, you're facing the wrong way. Any chance you can powerback to get off of my deice pad?
User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

The best US carrier to FCO on first or eco class I would say is US AIR from PHL because they fly their new A 330-300 to Italy which has a better inflight product than DL-AA-UAL (all fly B 763ERs).

But first look into the price of F or J class to FCO offered by US AIR and its local competitors plus what BA and AF offer. As far as an Intl carrier goes, choose BA or LXs(SWISS) J or F class which is way better than AFs-LHs and KLMs!!!


User currently offlineKDHawaii777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

Try British Airways. I really like the airlines. They're nice.

User currently offlineChgoan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

I agree with Ntspelich.....

I flew to Rome from ORD-PHL-FCO on USAirways a year ago and was really pleased. The A333 was very comfortable and has plenty of legroom AND has the PTVs, so there is plenty of entertainment for you and your mom for the long haul. Definitely my recommendation!!!!!!


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

If you want an American carrier, there is no contest. US's service from PHL on the 333 is divine.

US services RDU extremely well, so your options to PHL are very good, and in the event of a weather problem or similar the chances of getting there (or home) are better.

N


User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

You might want to take into consideration that in as much as you're going to have to do this in 2 segments (no nonstops from RDU-FCO) with an older person who has health issues, it might be best to make the connection in the US where everything is in English and easy to understand, as opposed to a European hub like Zurich or Paris, and get a nonstop transatlantic right to FCO. (FYI if you connect via Heathrow with BA you will have to change terminals on a usually standing-room-only bus or below-ground train, did this with my 72 year old dad and he was not happy!) This strategy would favor flying AZ or one of the US carriers that services FCO nonstop from a US hub.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

What about AA MRTC?

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User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

I'm sure BA would provide assisted transfer at LHR for a Club World or WT+ passengers.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16345 posts, RR: 86
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

I agree with the making a connection in the US.

I am planning a trip with my grandmother to FCO in the Spring, and its an important consideration to making the change in a more familiar environ.

MRTC isn't relevant - he pointed out that they'll be travelling in an upper product.

Even if they offer assisted transfer between LGW and LHR, for an elderly lady it will still be extremely hectic. BA does not serve FCO from LGW.

N


User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

If you want the truly Italian experience and don't mind some walking at JFK, you can get there from RDU with the DL/ACA nonstop and pick up AZ's nonstop 777 to Rome (might be able to do it all on a DL ticket per Skyteam codeshare), but now that I think about it probably the easiest thing to do is US via PHL, CO via EWR, or even DL via ATL because by going from RDU through a US hub and nonstop to Rome on the same airline it will likely eliminate as many terminal changes, lines and rescreening hassles as possible. There's also AA via ORD but that's a little out of the way for you.

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

As long as you can connect in Philadelphia without a problem, I would recommend without a doubt US Airways. As far as I am aware they operate the A330-300 on this route and wont beat them for leg room, comfort and in-flight entertainment with their P@ssport system.

In the UK, they nearly always seem to be the cheapest... I have just booked flights for March 2004 to LA (LGW-PHL-LAX LAX-CLT-LGW) with US Airways for £169 including tax on Expeda.co.uk. Bargain or what???

Even though I am in the UK, I will only fly US Airways to the USA wherever possible.

I suppose now I am going to get a backlash from other people now saying I should be loyal to my country and fly BA, BMI or Virgin! (But I don't care!)



User currently offlineFunFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Last time I checked USAir offered their "Envoy class" for some where around $1900.00 a person from BOS connecting in PHL then on to FCO.


Who cares about status?
User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1061 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Just be careful with CO in EWR. Half their flights from RDU-EWR are operated with RJ's. As other people have said they are quite cramped. Hope you have a great trip..Good Luck on the Planning!!

Dave


User currently offlineN628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 337 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

I friend of mine flies from the US to Nice frequently, and he says without a doubt, the best option is to take the nonstop across the pond to your destination, rather than a long leg to Europe, and then have to connect.

Another plus about the US IFE system is you can pause the PTV at any time, meaning there is not a sudden crush of people to the lavs when the movie ends.


25 Zionstrat : Great answers- Had to step out for a while and you did a great job keeping this going- Much appreciated and will let you know what we decide-
26 Tjwgrr : For something different, Ethiopian flys from EWR to Addis Ababa via Rome on Saturdays and Mondays. Don't know if EWR-FCO traffic is allowed though....
27 USAFHummer : From what I understand Ethiopian does not have traffic rights EWR-FCO and FCO is merely a tech-stop...so thats out of the question... Also, it should
28 Usair320 : Try US RDU-PHL-FCO or AA RDU-JFK then AZ JFK-PHL.
29 Qantas005 : firstly, dont send her in june! it's very hot that time of year as i found out in june myself, temps well over 35C daily! i would suggest late april t
30 FunFlyer : Quantas005 are you so sure? I went in july and it rarely got over 30C?
31 Post contains images Qantas005 : read news reports, italy had one of the hottest periods on record this year! i can assure you it was very hot! and this is coming from someone who liv
32 VCE : Italy is very different from the north to the center to the south. In the north on winter you can get at -25°C in the Alps, or in Milan at -10°C whi
33 Post contains images Flyguyclt : NWA-Northwest Airlines. Starting in May. NWA will resume seasonal service from DTW to FCO. The airline will use the brand new A330-300. With On Demand
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