WGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 33 Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2984 times:
I was wondering, would any of you happen to know which airlines ordered the Airbus A318, how many they ordered, and when the deliveries are expected to be complete? I attempted to find this on the Airbus website the other night, but was a bit time-pressed and couldn't find anything.
Also, has the reliability of the aircraft improved since it was introduced? I read earlier on this forum that the F9 A318 fleet had an availibility of around 75%. Is it likely that given this, and the inferior economics of the type when compared to the larger Airbus narrowbodies, any more airlines will order the A318? I would be grateful for any information you have on this.
MSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
The 318's seem to have better reliability as of late. The problems that we had with them originally were just "growing pains" so to speak. A new aircraft type...much like a new car...will always have some bugs to be worked out. It's a gorgeous plane...and especially fun to watch on liftoff...the plane is all wing....hard to notice much of a fuselage due to it's brevity.
Steph001 From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2501 times:
@Mariner: did you see any news that Tarom ordered the A318 or just the discussion on this forum? The deal was (apparently) signed on the 21st November , and if I am looking at the Excel datasheet with the orders and deliveries up to 30th November 2003 http://www.airbus.com/doc/media/ordersndeliveries/orders_n_deliveries.xls I can see only the two A310 that were ordered by Tarom and delivered long time ago. No mention whatsoever about the A318.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 26436 posts, RR: 84
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2273 times:
I read the discussions on this forum and followed the links the provided. There were two threads, if I remember correctly, and I think there must have been at least two links.
The reason I remember is because the price was different each time. First link said (from memory) about $25 million per plane, and the next time it was much more than $40 million per plane.
It stuck in my head, because I couldn't imagine why there would be two different prices and because I know much Frontier is paying for the A318.
I had noticed that it doesn't show up in the Airbus website, which also surprised me, but it isn't unusual.
I haven't checked this morning, but as of yesterday the Airbus site didn't mention the sale to the Qantas low fare carrier, JetStar, which is pretty big deal for Airbus - not in sales, but in getting the whole order.
I don't know anything about the practise of "hiding" a signed deal. I'm not sure why they would, but then I don't make airplanes.
Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2237 times:
I was very much looking forward to seeing the A318 at HP, but from all the news I hear....it's probably not going to happen. The current buzz is the A319 will end up being our smallest plane. Our new fare structure really needs more seats to be effective and with similiar operating costs to a 319, the 318 does not look very good anymore. Also we need planes like yesterday...so it would probably be easy to convert the 15 or so A318 orders to A319. There is lots of growth planned and they need planes to do that.
It would be nice to have a 100 seat plane, but it would have to be pretty efficient for our management to look at it. It would just be a big jump from an 80 seat CR9 to a 124 seat A319!