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User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

Just a question, now UA flies these flights that i Know off
UA816 MEL-SYD-LAX
UA862 SYD-SFO

Now when I pulled up on the UA website, I also got this flight for mid june next year.
UA870 SYD-ORD
Does UA plan to fly this route? Any details on this? Just curious

Also, I saw on amadeus.net that for some flights in June next year, US Airways is codesharing in some UA flights to Australia.

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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6098 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3787 times:

Well they don't have a plane that can make that flight, so it either goes through SFO or LAX. Maybe the possibility of via HNL. I assure you its not non-stop. Maybe its a new 1-stop to compete if Qantas starts ORD service.
ASSFO



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User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

Well that was my thought as well, didn't they used to run something like this before? But that might have been ORD-LAX-AKL-MEL when they ran that service.

Also was it or is it still possible to book MEL-SYD-MEL flights on the UA 744 service they have on UA816?


User currently offlineQantas005 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

SYD-ORD is a continuation of the SYD-SFO flight UA 862, UA changes flight numbers to SFO from Jan7th 04. it becomes UA 870 from SYD-ORD via SFO using the 744 and 757. nothing new apart from flight number

User currently offlineIndustrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Further to Qantas005's post, UA is changing their 815/816 flights to LAX from Sydney renamed as UA840/UA839. This change also takes effect January 7th 2004.

User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5620 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

After Ansett went belly up in 02, the Oz government gave any airline flying into Oz that wanted it permission to carry local traffic on domestic sectors. UA had such permission for several months, at least. I doubt it is still effective.


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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Wow, 815/816 no longer...I think those flight #'s have been in place since the day UA began service to SYD!

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

UA flies two daily flights from the USA (one each from SFO and LAX) to SYD. They also operate a SYD-MEL flight as a tag on one of the USA-SYD flights -- UA does not have local traffic rights on it.

User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

any reason why the flight number change?

User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

Below is a read out from Galileo on the SYD - ORD flights , it shows that plane changes are made but maintains the same flight number.


SAT 10JAN04 SYDNEY /CHICAGO *UA
SYD1ORD 1515 1756 UA 870 F7 C1 D0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 CHG*C

BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP E
SYD 1515 1 I SFO 0935 3 I 13:20/ 2:25 744 E
SFO 1200 3 D ORD 1756 1 D 3:56 CHG/777 E
---------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FLYING TIME SYD - ORD 17:16
TOTAL GROUND TIME SYD - ORD 2:25
TOTAL JOURNEY TIME SYD - ORD 19:41



TUE 20JAN04 CHICAGO /SYDNEY *UA
1 ORD1SYD 1800*0745 UA 863 F4 C9 D9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 CHG*C

BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP E
ORD 1800 1 D SFO 2031 3 D 4:31/ 1:49 757 E
SFO 2220 I I SYD 0745 * 1 I 14:25 CHG/744 E
---------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FLYING TIME ORD - SYD 18:56
TOTAL GROUND TIME ORD - SYD 1:49
TOTAL JOURNEY TIME ORD - SYD 20:45


User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Dont look for any major international expansions from United Airlines within the next few years. In the meantime be content that the airline can still operate both domestic and international at the same time.

Futhermore, you will be seeing the red Qantas kangaroo in O'Hare well before you will ever see a ORD-SYD nonstop on United Airlines!



LHR001


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

Not particularly instructional, since QF announced ORD service quite some time ago, as a one-stop thru LAX.

I'd imagine if UA felt the need to respond with a one-stop it could be arranged with the drop of a hat.

N


User currently offlineQantas005 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

it will be a while before you see QF at ORD.

they have suspended the flights and have been pulled from the system. maybe 2005 at the earliest now.


User currently offlineIrishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Still waiting to see QF back in SFO!!!

Doubt it will happen anytime soon!!!



User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

Gigneil,


*** NEWSFLASH ***

United Airlines has been offering one-stop flights to Australia from Chicago for over 5 years. The flights have rotated via San Francisco and via Los Angeles both using the 747-400, 767-300 or 777-200 to the West Coast and a 747-400 to Australia! True this is not an actual one-stop flight. However... in the U.S. this is allowed and is considered direct service even though there is an actual aircraft change!

In addition the rumors of a NONSTOP to Chicago are complete rubbish! If and when Qantas does commence service look for a routing via Los Angeles.




Irishpower,

Yes, indeed it would be rather splendid to see the Qantas fleet back at San Francisco. It was rather nice when they operated the 747SP via Papeete and service continued to Sydney. Or the more recent until 1992 when they operated a 767-300 from San Francisco to Honolulu where passengers would have continued on a 747-300 to Sydney!

However, in the interim Qantas has built an outstanding presence in Los Angeles. There is something like 5 daily flights or so at this point all operational using the 747-400 fleet. The only way that you would see Qantas return to San Francisco would be if United Airlines was to pull the Australia routes.... Which doesnt look very likely... However, if the United woes linger.. Look for Qantas to move in rapidly and efficiently to expidite United's move from Australia!



LHR001


User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3113 times:

Just with UA flights to LAX from Australia, they arrive at T7 right or TBIT?

User currently offlineIndustrybuff From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2003, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

TO aussie747

Mate can you check for cute/paste from Galileo for me the same data for my A flight UA840 SYDLAX on 26 JAN and UA863 01FEB SFOSYD

Thanks a billion

cheers g


User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Flyinghighboy,

i'm sure the passengers from UA flts from Australia deplane in T7 since they do have their own customs/immigration (please correct me if i'm wrong).

The only thing that i can think of if they deplane at the TBIT is if T7 is full of planes and no gates are available. A friend of mine who works for Virgin at LAX tells me there are times there T2 is full and the Virgin planes have to go to TBIT.

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

Thanks for that, the three times i've flow into LAX from Australia i've arrived into TBIT. I'm looking forward to something diffrent next year, is there much to do at T7, the way my flight will be booked, is that I'll be arriving at LAX in the morning and taking a red eye that evening.

User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Flyinghighboy,
from what i can remember...T7 is just a few shops and restaurants. nothing really special about it. T6 has a smoking area (if ur a smoker) and TBIT has many food joints in there. Enjoy ur flt to LAX and to ur final destination!

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

What is the earliest amount of time I can check in for a UA domestic leg? eg
I arrive LAX in the morning but my domestic UA flight leaves in the evening, what is the earliest I can check my bags in to avoid carrying them around LAX


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Can domestic pax take advantage of UA's domestic sector- MEL-SYD if they want to? It would be pretty cool flying MEL-SYD on a UA 747-400 insetad of a boring 737.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2950 times:

Can domestic pax take advantage of UA's domestic sector- MEL-SYD if they want to?

As mentioned above, UA does not have local traffic rights on MEL-SYD...


User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

how are UA's loads between SYD-MEL? since they don't carry local traffic its jsut the originating US passengers. what about for the MEL-SYD loads?

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Well the MEL-SYD-MEL loads, they cater for MEL pax going to SFO and LAX

25 IndustrialPate : how are UA's loads between SYD-MEL? since they don't carry local traffic its jsut the originating US passengers. what about for the MEL-SYD loads? - M
26 Positive rate : As mentioned above, UA does not have local traffic rights on MEL-SYD... Ah that would be right, typical Australian government stupidity.
27 IndustrialPate : Ah that would be right, typical Australian government stupidity. Not really... Qantas doesn't have local traffic rights on LAX-JFK. While I firmly bel
28 Positive rate : Not really... Qantas doesn't have local traffic rights on LAX-JFK. While I firmly believe the Australian government will do anything to protect Qantas
29 Flyinghighboy : But if they let UA do it, all the other airlines who fly the MEL-SYD route will want it, plus other local traffic rights.
30 Nickofatlanta : Positive rate - Do you really think letting Qantas fly one sector (LAX-JFK) three times a week with a 744 is going to damage the US carriers?! : )
31 Flyinghighboy : does anyone else know anything about US airways codesharing on UA flights to Australia?
32 Irishpower : Thanks for your insight Lhr001.
33 Aussie747 : to Industrybuff, should have that Galileo read out in a couple days, just not in the office until then.
34 The777Man : UA also used to fly LAX-SYD-BNE but stopped the SYD-BNE portion in 1992 or 1993. They did not have local traffic rights on that sector. UA did have lo
35 Flyinghighboy : For the SYD-BNE portion, they now codeshare with Virgin Blue on a flight
36 Aussie747 : To Industrybuff, Theres that paste for your flights MON 26JAN04 SYDNEY /LOS ANGELES *UA 1 SYD LAX 1615 1040 UA 840 F9 C9 D9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 744*C
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