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User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17282 times:

There have been strong internal and external rumors about an updated United paint scheme lately.

In conjunction with its exit from bankruptcy, and with the launch of Ted, United will reportedly finally be unifying its look.

I have heard of two versions: both will be just like Ted, except for the orange is replaced by "United Blue" and the Ted titles replaced with the U N I T E D titles of course.

However, some have told me they thought it would be billboard style, while others said it would be similar in size to the present United Airlines logotype.

I spent a few minutes modifying Ted pics to fit these two rumors.

Keeping in mind these are very crude representations, which is the lesser of two evils?

'Regular size' titles


Billboard style titles


Personally, I would prefer if United adopted billboard type titles.

And please, no posts about 'United cannot afford to do this, it is a dying airline'. New paint rollout has been proven as a way to freshen your image yet decrease expenses (using simpler paints), as long planes are not taken out of service just to repaint them.

Please keep discussion limited to the two paint scheme rumors.

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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17108 times:

In principal, I'd prefer it if they didn't go for the white fuselage, but if it's one of those two, I'm for the billboard type as well!


Smile - it confuses people!
User currently offlineIcarus75 From France, joined Oct 2003, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17091 times:

I would prefer billboard type titles too.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Flying is amazing!
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17065 times:

Everyone seems to be going with the billboard style these days, most recently NW. While it does actually look pretty good, I think I prefer the more traditional, above-the windows, titles and logo.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17050 times:

I like the blue tummies because it's easier to ident as they fly overhead.

And I'm really sick of airlines changing liveries every 2 years.



Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 964 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17042 times:

The billboard titles take it from terrible to acceptable. I, like Leskova, would rather have something different than white as well. Maybe the light blue and red of their tulip for the fuselage. I think it could make a nice unique combination.

Tim


User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 17027 times:

I like the first one, and looks nicer than the current livery.


Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 16980 times:

"I like the first one, and looks nicer than the current livery"

You see... I don't agree. The current one is far more recognizable. Just like the NWA red. KLM's light blue, and the "flying goldfish" of SWA. You know who they are out of the corner of your eye.

As for UAL, the stupidest, ugliest thing on the planet were the various "United Shuttle" or "Shuttle by United" schemes. Someone needs to make up their frickin mind and just get on with it.



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4477 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16948 times:

I strongly dislike this livery. Except for the tail, which is wonderful, this scheme is very generic and boring. I'd be very very disappointed to see UA go with this livery.

I much prefer these ones......I know I didn't at first, but it really grew on me!  Big thumbs up







Especially that last one.

UA744Flagship, I'd be sending these images to United and I'd be sending them twice a week if I were you. Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll adopt the scheme or a variation of it, but time is running out, so for heaven's sake please send these in. I'd much rather see this scheme on a 777 than United's "eurowhite" plan. Yawn.


User currently offlinePotomac From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16930 times:

i'm guessing that the new UA mainline delivery has already been determined, given that the TED livery has been rolled out and that it is likely that the two will complement eachother.

User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16920 times:

I like those... keeps the recognizability. The last 2 took a second... I thought the tail was showing how it would look with recog. lights on... and then I realized that the light blue was the "tulip" as well. Very cool.


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12411 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16760 times:

I don't think either of the white ones look good; I understand what you say about some liveries being less costly due to there being less paint, but that's really copying NW and AA. Would UA follow these two down that road?

Personally, I prefer the navy scheme - either the current ones or the "mock" liveries; the two shown with white fuselages - regardless of font size - certainly don't evoke an image of anything other than an airline trying to do things on the cheap!


User currently offlineHaveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16680 times:

those blueish schemes were suggested at the time of the UA/US merger -- combines the two schemes. If they remain independent airlines, I think that livery looks too close to the current US livery.

User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16211 times:

If this is in fact true, then I guess it's not too bad.

I'd much prefer a new livery to the disjointed two designs that United has had since 1998. The planes stayed in the old 1992 colors, while all the ticket counters, gate podiums, ramp equipment, etc. adopted the block titling and the gradient 'U'. If this goes ahead, it will be nice to see some 'unity' at United.


User currently offline4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16131 times:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I HATE the current livery, but it's more creative than this



Nobody served our republic like Republic!
User currently offlineCpharris5514 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16056 times:

If forced to choose, I'd go with the billboard style. Of course, like many others in this forum, I'd rather they not go with white as the predominant paint, even though their last livery used a lot of white (which I liked in that scheme). Put some color into it! Keeps it from looking so dirty if nothing else.  Smile


From West Des Moines, Iowa
User currently offlineIfly2eat From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15946 times:

Explain to me how a airline in Chapter 11, that has not even really detailed a plan for exiting bankruptcy can even think of repainting their fleet. I can see from this half banked scheme and "Ted" that United's management is putting way too much time into marketing (read John Tague) and not enough time in making the hard financial decisions the company needs to make to make it a viable airline.


Fly the friendly skys and stay out of mine.
User currently offlinePUDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15908 times:

I can understand United wanting to change its image do to all the PR problems it has had. I think the United demos up there look good, but United updated its colour scheme only like 8-10 years ago. I dont like United at all but to me that 747-400 in United's current scheme is the best looking airliner in the sky.

PUDFW


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15894 times:

You wanna know what I think? either billboard or small titles, they both suck

how disgusting  Angry they went from bad to worse. Stupid to be changing to worse and worse liveries..


User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15813 times:

And please, no posts about 'United cannot afford to do this, it is a dying airline'. New paint rollout has been proven as a way to freshen your image yet decrease expenses (using simpler paints), as long as planes are not taken out of service just to repaint them.

"Explain to me how a airline in Chapter 11, that has not even really detailed a plan for exiting bankruptcy can even think of repainting their fleet."

They have. Where have you been?

"...not enough time in making the hard financial decisions the company needs to make to make it a viable airline."

Such as? I'm sure you have all the answers.


User currently offlinePotomac From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15801 times:

Ifly2eat - emerging from BK isn't just about controlling costs, but spending smartly - its not how much $$ you spend, but what you spend it on. many companies revise their branding as part of "refreshing" their image as they come out of BK with a new approach to the market. a new livery can easily be seen as a smart expense - and as others have pointed out, planes get repainted regularly anyway, whether its an existing livery or a new one doesn't make a tremendous difference.

again, i think the new mainline UA livery 1) will likely look as it was first depicted in this post and 2) has probably already been determined. the TED livery is indicative of that, and the two should be very similar.

and do you really think that UA has not really detailed a plan for exiting bankruptcy?


User currently offlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15590 times:

Almost ANYTHING has to be better then the present one! Dull, dull, dull

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17366 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15517 times:

"Explain to me how a airline in Chapter 11, that has not even really detailed a plan for exiting bankruptcy can even think of repainting their fleet."

Every airline, whether in Ch. 11 or not, repaints their aircraft on a consistent schedule. Repainting them in the same colors, or new colors makes little difference in cost. Repainting them from the old colors to these binary colors (blue and whit) would probably save the company a lot of money. Every time a plane goes into a D check it is stripped of paint and repainted...a new color scheme is not costly in that sense. What is costly is hiring consultants to come up with a new lame money-saving color scheme... But Unitd has the best in the business...whose resume includes SABENA and Swissair. Ooops!



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15454 times:

Well I always thought you should get your house in order before you paint it. And yes airplanes get painted as it has been pointed out. Now fewer colors and an easier color scheme should be a money saver and no brainier, tho ask yourself what did this new scheme actually cost? How much did they pay someone to think it up, test market it and all other associated costs?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15360 times:

If I were a United employee who has endured pay/benefits cuts, watch friends and coworkers lose their jobs I could of nothing more demoralizing than watching my company spend money on a new paint job.

25 Potomac : of course there are costs associated with picking the new livery. how else is UA supposed to come up with the design without an investment researching
26 LMP737 : Potomac: Of course it takes money to make money. However I fail to see how a change in paint jobs is going rake in the $$$$ for UAL. I can think of ot
27 Post contains images SOUTHAMERICA : Oh boy... here we have another example of those super "modern", super dull all-white fuselage liveries. Though the symbol on the tail looks fairly cl
28 Potomac : no, i do not think a new livery alone will generate revenue. what i do think is that when an airline is emerging from bankruptcy, it comes out with a
29 Aloha717200 : They have. Where have you been? United emerged from Chapter 11? That passed me by too, I hadnt heard that. On UAL.com I dont see a press release that
30 Potomac : that post referred to an earlier one regarding UA having a detailed plan for emerging from BK.
31 PropJock04 : I have to agree with InnocuousFox. Their current colors are very recognizable and it seems to me that is the whole point of a livery. You want everyda
32 JeckPDX : Someone, please cover my mouth so I can make it to the toilet before I puke! Yuck, this is a hideous paint scheme. All white fuselages are the spawn o
33 EMBQA : First of all, any company in Chapter 11 can't spend a dime without the over seeing Bankruptcy Judge approving it......so as for UAL changing their pai
34 FA4UA : DEAR LORD! Not another white fuselage! Kinda has a certain B6 quality to it... makes sense though to have TED and UNITED all on the same design page.
35 Post contains links UA744Flagship : What is costly is hiring consultants to come up with a new lame money-saving color scheme... But Unitd has the best in the business...whose resume inc
36 Potomac : oh well, i guess i'm one of the few who likes the mostly white with colored trim livery. it looks good to me on others like B6, BA, Swiss, etc. to eac
37 EMBQA : FA4UA.....I've got the book "From Worst to First" and have read it twice. The main reason Gordon Bethune MANDATED a uniform fleet was: A) There is a S
38 MIAMIx707 : well the best days of commercial aviation are clearly gone. The more interesting planes are being retired, no more concorde, less and less color and v
39 AA777 : Nice concept-- but DESPERATLEY needs more color. White is so boring.... The Rudder design is nice, and the billboard look is good too... How about so
40 Zippyjet : The last two UA liveries are my first choice. Or, take the tail designs from the last two and adopt them design number 2. The first picture is just pl
41 Post contains links and images Cicadajet : Why don't they try something Like this..? View Large View MediumPhoto © John P. Stewart
42 Post contains links and images UA744Flagship : Ehh... it's not so bad. The 744, 73', and A32X look good in eurowhite... but the 76' and triple 7 need more. Oh well, it will grow on me... From http:
43 Rj777 : Has any of this been confirmed as official yet?
44 UA744Flagship : One of my contacts confirmed the eurowhite... the rest of the details are not.
45 SOUTHAMERICA : MIAMIx707, As usual, just couldn't have said it better. Apparently they'll never get over those plain concepts. I'm not asking to exaggerate on extrav
46 EK413 : I think the New Paint Scheme for United is very nice & I must go with the Billboard Titles. United has to change its paint scheme to refresh its name
47 Post contains images RayChuang : Actually, the new livery aren't THAT bad, though I think the UNITED name will probably be in large letters but not in billboard style. It will look a
48 Futureualpilot : Noooooooo!!!!!!!!! No all white! No all white! No all white! Their current scheme is soooo much better IMO, at least it isnt boooooring as all-white f
49 Garnetpalmetto : As much of a UA hater as I am, I like the current scheme by a long way over this one. Eurowhite is just too bland, IMO, and if you don't regularly was
50 AWspicious : I think that United Express RJ looks cool. a.w.
51 N766UA : Eurowhite? AHHHH!!!!!
52 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Federico, glad to hear your reasoning is the same as mine (why don't we team up and start an airline design business? ) who the hell is coming up with
53 Post contains images The777Man : Very, very disappointed to hear that UA may change their livery !! United Airlines current livery is of the best around and the interpretations of a n
54 EK413 : Its going to be sad to see the Gray fuselage paint scheme disappearing from our skies, but this is a must for United Airlines. Maybe they should add a
55 Boeingfan : May be instead of repainting a fleet, they should concentrate on building a profitable carrier? I hope UA does not invest in a reworking of the logo,
56 Aloha717200 : I still hate it. The only plane it really looks good on is that United Express CRJ. Other than that it's awful. You know what it reminds me of? That s
57 Qantasboy : Terrible! Eugh! Eurowhite! From bad to worse... Take a look at GF, curves i like curves.
58 Chgoflyer : TED = UNITED without UNI
59 Post contains images Aloha717200 : TED = UNITED without UNI
60 Q330 : I hope United comes up with something less boring and more unique and recognizable. I think it's saying something that we can't find anything better t
61 MIAMIx707 : I really can't believe the're just leaving the whole fuselage bare white like that.. thats ridiculous Aloha said it right, it looks like a cargo airli
62 Baw716 : To those of who you believe that United should focus on the passenger experience, you are right. To those of who you believe that United should bring
63 Post contains links L.1011 : http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00000013 http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_s
64 Post contains links Boeing nut : The third one from the above list is great! http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00000170
65 Post contains images RayChuang : Personally, I think UA will soon undergo a drastic change in some of their policies. For starters, UA may phase out two-class seating on every single-
66 Post contains images Aloha717200 : The third one from the above list is great! I prefer the fourth. It looks like someone else copied UA744Flagship's idea.
67 Post contains images AApilot2b : Wow! What a good idea! Lets change the scheme and make it extremely boring. Maybe everyone will think we are Lufthansa or Swiss instead of United and
68 Trvlr : *GAG*... Surely there must be a better way?! Aaron G.
69 Post contains links and images Crosswind : My personal favourite, although it was designed at the time of the proposed US Airways takeover so it is quite similar to their scheme; Link to origin
70 Post contains images An-225 : Guys... let's quit playing armchair CEO game here. Until anything is confirmed, UAL will be grey and blue. End of story. As for the future, I hope the
71 OH-LGA : That CR7 scheme actually looks pretty darn cool! Needs minor tweaking but just the "EXPRESS" title w/ the UA logo is a neat idea. I know everyone just
72 ORD747CLE : An-225 -- This topic is purely speculation about the new paint scheme. Of course there has been no decision about the new C/S, but we're discussing wh
73 UA744Flagship : Again, the Eurowhite is confirmed from a UAL mgmt source. Nothing else is.
74 Cancidas : i think that the best would be for them to go back to thier frendship colours. if they don't want to keep thier current livery then aybe have an artis
75 MarcJet66 : I really like the actual colors of United. They look smart and it actually made me aware of the Airline. I'm quite sure that if the board decided to c
76 Post contains links DC-10 Levo : I really like this one: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_search.php?id=00000471. But I'd rather it stay grey and blue. D
77 Aloha717200 : I agree DC-10 Levo. I strongly support the design that UA744Flagship came up with (which is what that scheme in your link is, UA744 designed it first.
78 Scf158 : I think the new livery looks hidious! Just my oppinion... Maybe its just the phoney-ness of the picture modification...
79 Post contains images UA744Flagship : N. Kwhaja got permission from me to do his rendering. If you look at the bottom right hand corner, it credits the livery design to "hass@imkeww.com".
80 SegmentKing : Hass, the RJ pic is cool, but whoever did it needs to fix the livery. 501MJ is a Mesa bird, not Skywest :P (( sorry, had to nit pick somethin! )) -nat
81 Matt777 : If this idea is carried on, it will be a HUGE mistake. Just like The777Man said "Very, very disappointed to hear that UA may change their livery !! Un
82 Airways6max : They could bring back a variation of their orange-red-blue cheatline color scheme. That was distinctive and the orange was a unique touch. However, it
83 Tommy767 : The "Billboard" titles are not bad, but I prefer the the blue. Regarding the blue color scheme, I think it would work if they keep the large transpare
84 Tbear815 : IF UA changes things, wouldn't Eurowhite just be another variation on a over-used theme? The current livery is distinctive and recognizable worldwide.
85 Ordpark : UA Definitely needs a new paint job...most of us are pretty tired of the battleship grey. Besides, it's hard to pick up in the twilight and in low vis
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