Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5388 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3403 times:
If, for the sake of argument, LH does cut its ties with AC. Then, just like the MX situation, Star tosses AC. Does AC then start trying to join OneWorld? Or does AC at least try to enter code-sharing agreements with some OneWorld members, like AA and BA?
UnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3385 times:
I strongly doubt that Air Canada would ever let it get to the point where Lufthansa would completely sever ties. As is said in the article, Lufthansa is a crucial part of Air Canada's trans-Atlantic strategy, and there's no question that Lufthansa has become quite cozy with its special "in" with the Canadian market. Something that no other major European carrier has (BA lost it when Air Canada bought out Canadian, and KLM, Air France, Alitalia, etc have no reasonable alternative).
Johnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3255 times:
as i have already stated in the other thread, there is probably no doubt that LH has any real interest in severing ties with AC, but it is protecting its financial interests.
without LH, AC would probably have a much harder time to leav bankruptcy protection since LH is a major part of their transatlantic business.
i even think this pressure that is put on by LH might facilitate things at AC. to the Canadian authorities it may stress the importance of a speedy and smooth return to viability of AC.
If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6895 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3226 times:
I agree that LH seems to have more to lose than Air Canada if they choose to sever ties with AC and AC is subsequently booted out of Star. I believe that both oneworld AND SkyTeam would love to have the coverage of the Canadian market that AC provides to its alliance partners, even in spie of its current financial difficulties. Clearly a partnership with AC would be beneficial to BA given that AC operates 9 daily flights into LHR (over twice as many as they offer to FRA) and could provide substantial connecting feed. I'm sure AF also would love to pick up additional traffic from AC to and through CDG. AA would certainly welcome an alliance with AC, given that they were willing to help finance the Onex merger proposal between CP and AC in order to maintain their codeshare.
If Star loses AC along with MX, its North American presence will be limited to United and US Airways, and US Airways' future currently looks cloudy at best. One of the other two alliances would be strengthened at Star's expense -- and that's not good for LH.
Searpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3163 times:
I don't put any true credence behind this, other than it's a posturing move to put pressure on the Canadian courts. But to throw out something else to think about, wouldn't it be LH that would face eviction from Star if they sever ties w/ AC? Just as MX was/will be evicted for severing ties with UA?
Just a wild thought. . .
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