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NWA55: Diversion Due To Flight Crew Discretion  
User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

Northwest Airlines Flt. 55 from AMS to MSP is getting diverted to RST tonight. Here's what NWA flight information says:

Departs: AMS Arrives: RST
Scheduled: 4:35PM Scheduled: --
Actual: 4:35PM Estimated: 8:04PM
Aircraft: DC10-30
Status: In Flight

Departs: RST Arrives: MSP
Scheduled: -- Scheduled: 6:40PM
Estimated: 9:33PM Estimated: 10:16PM
Aircraft: DC10-30
Note: Diversion/delay due to flight crew discretion.
Flight left the gate at 9:33PM but has not taken off.
Status: Left Gate




Weather at MSP isn't the best but is certainly good enough for a DC-10 landing. Is this flight being diverted because of a medical emergency. I know that the AMS-MSP flights get a lot of passengers continuing to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester. Could the condition of a passenger gotten serious? If so, why wouldn't they continue to MSP?

They cancelled their flight plan to MSP at 7:42pm CST and filed one to RST at that time. They landed in RST at about 8:00pm CST. The latest is that they left the gate at 9:33pm but haven't taken off yet (9:45pm).

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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6199 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Diversion/delay due to flight crew discretion.

hmmmm....."flight crew discretion" could be anything. Maybe the captain wanted to visit some relatives  Smile



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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4182 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

The captain finished his newspaper early. Drastic measures had to be taken.


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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4602 times:

It could obviously be anything. However, are there any pilots that can give some example of realistic situations where this could happen?

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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6199 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

I'm not familiar with this incident, but I'll brainstorm some possibilities:

1) questionable fuel status (perhaps unforecast strong headwinds)
2) medical emergency (passenger or crew member)
3) mechanical issue (engine problem, hydraulic failure, etc.)
4) security issue (bomb threat, passenger comment, unruly passenger)

Ultimately it would have been some sort of safety issue that the crew determined would be best resolved by diverting to another airport.



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User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4182 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Ok, aside from my joking.. this is almost obviously a fuel logistical stop. Burn was higher than predicted, and thus the airplane could not be re-released to destination. Have a seat while we splash on some more fuel.  Smile


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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12322 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

I'm actually here in AMS, so I would have seen that aircraft leaving y'day!

However, I don't think "flight crew discretion" is a sufficient explanation, particularly if many pax missed connections. They'll need to come up with a better explanation.


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Kaitak- usually the pax are given a better explanation, but that doesn't mean they publicly announce why on the delay reports..

I'll check with some friends @ NW..

Chris



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User currently offlineNwfltattendant From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

OK...for those suspecting fuel issues, its crap. Ive worked NW055 AMS-MSP and to go to RST instead is a longer flight. We come straight down from the YQT/DLH area/north shore of lake superior, directly in to MSP. To go to RST is to continue southeastward. So, close but no cigar on the fuel ideas.


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User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

Ok, some people I know at NW looked it up in the PARS system.. The only reason given in the system is "PILOT DELAY".. Tryign to figure out what the heck that could mean, but it is so far eluding me..

Will update as more is available..

Chris



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

If you know some folks at NWA, maybe you can have shed some light on this one (from another thread)...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1301164/

Thanks...


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