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What Prompted The AA A300 Order?  
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

These planes are mentioned quite often as serving AA extremely well on their carribean routes due to cargo and pax capacity. I was wondering if the order was inherited from EA, just as the Latin American network was? EA was the first US carrier to order Airbus, so it seems logical that the AA AB6's would be originally destined for Eastern


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User currently offlinePicarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

No, AA saw these as the perfect aircraft for its Caribbean operations, and ordered them from Airbus itself. Eastern never ordered the AB6.

Picarus


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3045 times:
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The Eastern planes went to Continental. Maybe a simple answer is that AA fleet and it looks like they still do fit into there fleet plane, and by the looks of it they are happy with them right now.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7661 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

One of the reasons that AA went with the A300, and the F-100's for that matter, was to tell Boeing and McD that they weren't the only players in the market. They did this to get deals from Boeing and McD and got a nice deal from Airbus on the A300, as they were attempting to make in-roads with North American airlines. Boeing though they had it all wrapped up with the 767's, but AA went with the A300's as they were better suited for their needs, partially to play each company of one another. Crandell was a businessman for sure.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2879 times:

Yeah, Crandall with his Olives and Value Pricing. =)


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

Actually Airbus offered AA a walk-away deal with the 600. If AA did not like the performance of the 600, they could return all 25 to Airbus with no penalties. As it was, AA was happy with the 600 and went on to procure another 10.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2717 times:

Well, probably for sure, we won't see American ordering from Airbus again in the near future, not after the pre-9/11 incident over New York.


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

To further what Yyz717 said, AA can return 24 of the A300s with a 30-day notice. AA owns the other 10 A300s outright. Personally I like to see AA get a few more A300-605Rs on the second-hand market...if anything just to piss off Boeing.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

AA is firmly back in the Boeing camp now. They effectively signed on as an exclusive B customer a few years ago in return for maximuim flexibility with orders, as did CO and DL.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Actually, it was post-9/11, just after and some hysterical people tried to blame terrorists. The thing that will more likely keep AA from going 'Bus is their exclusive provider agreement with Boeing, although AA and Airbus are not too happy with eachother after the Jamaica Bay crash


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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

That 'written' agreement giving 'exclusive' service to AA, CO & DL was torned up after Airbus cried foul majorly. Now it's more like a 'handshake' deal. Nothing on paper anymore. Regards.


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User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

Actually, Boeing were being a bunch of pompous asses with the 767. They tried to push Boeing around, and AA said screw you and ordered Airbus. Boeing happily sold AA 767s at much more reasonable prices after that one.

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