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User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2416 times:

AA seems to be going along with the per fare-class elite status qualification.

AADVANTAGE MEMBERS NOW CAN REACH ELITE STATUS FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE!

American Airlines Announces Exciting New AAdvantage Elite Program Changes for 2004

FORT WORTH -- If one of your New Year’s resolutions is to become an AAdvantage® elite status member, or simply maintain your current elite status, American Airlines is making it easier to achieve your goal. Effective Jan. 1, 2004, AAdvantage members can earn points faster for elite status on American.

Members will continue to earn one mile toward elite status for every mile flown, and a full segment credit for every segment flown, on any fare. And the number of miles, points or segments needed to qualify for elite status will remain unchanged.

The chart below provides details on the new point structure.

Qualifying Points per Mile Flown on American Airlines, American Eagle, and AmericanConnection

2004 2003
Fare Purchased New Points Per Mile Previous Points Per Mile
First Class 1.50 1.50
Business Class 1.50 1.25
Full-fare Economy Class* 1.50 1.00
Discount Economy Class** 1.00 .50
Deep Discount Economy Class*** .50 .50

*Fares booked in Y or B.
**Fares booked in H, K, M, Q (except American Airlines trans-Atlantic fares booked in Q), W, and V.
***Fares booked in G, L, N, and S.

This more generous point structure means that all AAdvantage elite levels can be attained more quickly. And, members who would have earned a higher elite status or retained their current status under the new points qualification guidelines (based on their 2003 flight activity) will be awarded the higher status for the 2004 membership year. Members will receive their credentials at the beginning of the new membership year in March 2004.

"We understand that our AAdvantage members like to accrue miles using a variety of fares, and they value the benefits that come with elite status," said Dan Garton, American’s executive vice president of Marketing. "These improvements to the AAdvantage elite levels give our customers more of what they value."

Elite membership also gives customers special privileges, including the following exclusive services and benefits:

Bonus miles
Earned 500-mile electronic upgrades based on qualifying flight activity
Expedited airport check-in
Complimentary upgrades for you and one companion when traveling on a full-fare Economy Class ticket*
Exclusive hotline number for reservations, seating and meal requests
In addition, AAdvantage elite members may confirm their complimentary upgrades on full-fare tickets in advance of their flight date, up to 100 hours prior to departure, depending on elite status level.

The new point structure also applies to elite-qualifying AAdvantage participant carriers. For a complete list of eligible fare classes and the equivalent elite points earned on AAdvantage participating airlines, visit www.aa.com/elitepoints.

* To receive complimentary upgrades, members must be traveling to and from qualifying cities on fares booked in Y or B (excluding military/government fares). Complimentary upgrades are subject to seating limitations and are only available on American Airlines marketed and operated flights within and between the 50 United States, Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, the Bahamas and Bermuda, and between the United States and Central America.


What do you guys think. Is this going to become common among all the majors. Has CO reversed its decision to do this?

Dave


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2365 times:

I don't know if it will be that common, but it's not all that much of a change.

Last year, AA rewarded those who were close to elite status but not quite there by offering a promotion that allowed them to obtain elite status if they flew something like 3 or 4 flights between January and March. Any word on whether AA will do this again? I'd love it; I've been dying to re-establish my Gold status for a few years now.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2354 times:
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User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2310 times:

Ssides, AA is offering the "purchase elite" scheme again this year I believe.

This change in q-points is a step in the right direction. Where airlines like Delta and Continental have reduced the points you can receive, AA is increasing them, showing their committment to the frequent traveler.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2191 times:

Thanks for the tip. What does the "purchase elite" scheme entail, do you know?


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineContinentalFan From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 2139 times:

Ssides,

You can often purchase the lowest elite tier outright (i.e. pay $250 and be silver or whatever it is). It may also mean the challenges that the airlines often offer (e.g. I did a challenge on CO where if I bought four V fares or better in a certain time period then I would make platinum). Things like that, I guess.


User currently offlineAdh214 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

As a Platinum FF on AAdvantage, I don't see this as a major change.

User currently offlineCaetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 909 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

It actually seems like a better change (at least for us, the pax) than what Delta did. They made it HARDER to achieve elite. It looks like AA has made it slightly easier, unless you are flying the absolutely bottom of the barrel fares. I know who I would choose if AA even flew here. However, I fly UAL out of here because I like their structure the best.


A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her. - W.C. Fields
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

Buy elite? Where is a site about it?
That must crowd elite status and dillute it for Silvers  Sad
-UN



What now?
User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I disagree with Caetravlr

Delta's plan made it easier for me.

But it matters where most around your city pairs.

The standout for me is that AA gives 1.25 for biz, DL give 2.0.

I don't understand Caetravlr's basis for opinion.

Not that any of us need one!  Smile



B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Buy elite? Where is a site about it?
That must crowd elite status and dillute it for Silvers


You must already hold status, I believe. It is simply a way to requalify if you are short.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

OK, I'm a 200,000-mile AAdvantage member but I must plead ignorance here ... what is "silver" status? Is that just a regular AAdvantage customer? I thought the levels were just gold, platinum and executive platinum; is there another?


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

OK, I'm a 200,000-mile AAdvantage member but I must plead ignorance here ... what is "silver" status? Is that just a regular AAdvantage customer? I thought the levels were just gold, platinum and executive platinum; is there another?

You are correct. Some people here don't know the AA-specific levels... in most programs it goes Silver then Gold. Gold is mid-tier at most airlines.


User currently offlineSchiller64 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Actually, not sure if it is "most" airlines that brand their FF higher echelons as diamond / platinum / whatever. A number of other carriers stick to gold as the color for their most coveted travelers:

LH
SK
Thai
BA
SQ


User currently offlineI LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

What AA did today was great. It rewards the higher fare PAX but also allows us discount fare PAX to achieve status on discounted Y tix according to in-seat miles flown.

You can buy back your elite status only if you have flown a certain amount of miles or have a certain number of Q-Points flown for the year.


User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

It rewards the higher fare PAX but also allows us discount fare PAX to achieve status on discounted Y tix according to in-seat miles flown.

You could always get status by miles flown, separate from q-points. It doesn't look like the average discount-economy flyer will be helped by this. Now, when they reach elite, their q-miles and q-points will be equal rather than making elite by q-miles.


User currently offlineAirMatt From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

At least on AA when traveling on a deeply discounted fare, you still get one mile for each mile flown as qualifying miles. I know that Delta does not offer this. Deeply discounted fares on Delta will accrue 50% of the miles for qualification.

User currently offlineI LOVE EWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 852 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

What AirMatt said is what I meant to say. AA does not penalize you for flying on discounted Y tickets when it comes to elite qualifications.

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