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Cost Of First Class Meals.  
User currently offlineAzmi From Lebanon, joined Nov 2003, 111 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

It was mentioned,in an airline affiliated site,the the cost of a first class meal might reach up to $100 per person.I find that hard to believe.What do thers think of this?


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User currently offlineCiro From Brazil, joined Aug 1999, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

It may be true... As we know, the highest costs associated on serving meals in the air are linked to the logistics of delivering the food to the passenger rather than the raw-materials themselves.

Therefore, if one argues that the champagne, caviar, fine-china, etc, etc, etc are just a small percentage of the cost-structure, we may easily reach this value.


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User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

Wow... wonder what's included in that meal;
A glass of Dom Perignon, crayfish cocktail and veal brain? And of course, you get to keep the knife, fork and spoon (made out of solid gold)

Rest of my post had already been said by Ciro... If the meal is served on china with good quality cutlery, real glasses and stuff. That takes some weight. Maybe the 100 bucks is a compensation for lost revenue (decreased number of passenger due to the increased weight)

[Edited 2003-12-17 14:12:26]


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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2653 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3518 times:

That cost likely would include labor on an intercontinental flight, premium cabin.

The food part, if you include the waste, might be higher than you would think. I would bet the food cost would be around 25-40 on such a flight. And if the flight included a second meal or light snack, maybe more.

Labor is the most expensive yet compulsory cost in any organization, so we often include the labor costs when costing a 'product' because of the inherent 'service' with it.

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User currently offlineLauda777 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

It is possible considering some airlines (I know of 2 QF and OS) hire an onboard chef who prepares first class meals on demand, now that would not be cheap then again neither is a first class ticket.


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User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

The cost of a F/C cold meal on a two hour flight is only a few dollars.

The cost of a F/C meal on an trans Atlantic or trans Pacific flight could easily run up to $100. Some of the bottles of wine run over a $100 all by themselves.


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3277 times:


Yes, the cost of an intercontinental main meal is about 100 € - and that´s just the raw material.

That was on a documentary about LH´s catering subsidiary, LSG, which I watched some time ago.

Daniel Smile


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3199 times:
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As mentioned previously, the majority of the cost associated with providing a meal is in the distribution itself, primarily the delivery to the aircraft.

For example, Alaska Airlines pays a $60.00 charge just to have a catering truck drive out to an aircraft. This is paid regardless of what they're delivering, so even if the flight crew just insists on an extra bag of ice, the company pays that $60.00 fee for the extra truck run.



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

I bought a bottle of Tattinger champaign for $40; there were only about 5 glasses in that bottle. Last time I flew International, I gulped down 7 glasses in a single flight, so they must spend an arm in a leg for that stuff. But the expense of food is, I'm sure, dwarfed by the cost of labor, maintenance, and fuel.


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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

about two years ago UA printed internally their First Class cost per meal of around $7.50 worldwide.

Each market of course is a different story, as mentioned above. We serve Dom Perignon or Pol Roger in our atlantic market and that's not cheap, even when purchased in bulk. Our business class wines and First Class wines are typically excellent selections purchased from all around the world and none are very cheap. UA is good at only boarding enough food for the number of passengers onboard.

Oh, another cost that is crucial to the International First Class experience: the Haagen Daaz Ice Cream Sundays! Can't do without those!

FA4UA



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User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2920 times:

FA4UA:

about two years ago UA printed internally their First Class cost per meal of around $7.50 worldwide.

I'm guessing that's the average price they pay for a F/C meal system wide. A tiny cold meal served in F/C on a short flight would cost far less than a seven course meal served in F/C going across either pond.  Smile


User currently offlineMohan From India, joined Nov 2003, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Well on Intercontinental Flights ...Lets say on SQ or EK i would cost them more than a 100 USD.........

Welcome champagne.....
A whisky to start my evening
Lots of Wine
Caviar
Full course meal incl desert

Then breakfast with fine teas ...smoothies


Oh I love First Class Meal/Drink ....service


But on F class .it all depends on the sector flown...time of the flight ...the duration.....the airline...my estimates on average would be

SQ - 110 USD plus with the olive oils, dom...caviar etc
CX - say 100 plus with all those skillets on board...duck, noodles
EK - 50 to 70 US (They have a lot of shorter flights and lots of people on their routes dont drink)
UA - International- say 50 USD...cheese cake cookies milk and a steak so i guess 50 is good
UA - within US - say 20 US - again cookies, beer, pretzels & on longer ones a sandwhich or say a pasta

Virgin - Oh yes say 55 - all long haul ....cheap new world wines (but they taste good)....decent food)... but lets not forget they are charging you business


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