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Virgin Atlantic: Around The World In 80 Hours!  
User currently offlineEmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2121 posts, RR: 9
Posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6033 times:

According to Airliner World Magazine, Virgin Atlantic Airways founder and Chairman, Sir Richard Branson has set out to beat a new world record: To fly around the world non-stop.

Today was the scheduled day for the first flight to take place, although the record breaking flight would take place in April or October next year, when the weather conditions were at their best.

His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft, in which he and his co-pilot, Steve Fosset will fly the aircraft from. This aircraft is incredibly efficient and will circumnavigate the globe with just 9 tonnes of fuel.

The flight call-sign will be Virgin 101 and is expected to fly over or near cities such as Montreal, London, Tokyo and Los Angeles.

More information on this incredible aircraft, flight and flight status can be found at http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com.


What does everyone think about this?

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

[Edited 2003-12-17 21:54:44]

[Edited 2003-12-17 21:55:12]


You and I were meant to fly, Air Canada!
26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5938 times:

I wish them luck!

(filler)



Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5880 times:

Good luck to them both, although quite *why* RB's doing it still escapes me.

I know he's not one to avoid a publicity opportunity, however there are less risky ways of getting a headline!

Pix.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5859 times:

I think it looks like a great airplane designed by a stellar designer.  Wink/being sarcastic

It's well known that SRB is a media whore...but hey, it works. I can't blame him.



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5851 times:

Should be interesting  Smile

The aircraft looks pretty good, but why can't they just use this... Big grin


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Photo © Andy Martin



Josh


User currently offlineWingman From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined May 1999, 2099 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Well, Airbus certainly won't be very happy. Not only is Branson risking his life by foregoing his four engines for long haul, he's getting truly suicidal by using just one! Mon Dieu, n'est pas posible!

User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5637 times:

"His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft, in which he and his co-pilot, Steve Fosset will fly the aircraft from."

As far as I knew it would be a solo flight, with Fosset the primary pilot and Branson the secondary pilot (not both on the flight together)...

qantasA332


User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5592 times:

Arright...one day VS will presemt a monkey steering five A346 at the same time...as long as press, media, TV, and a.net are full of it...
commercials for free...awesome...

still wanna fly his airline...hmmm



Putana da Seatbeltz!
User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

I wondered how long it would take for someone to post a message along those lines.

User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

Nudelhirsch is right...it's just one big publicity stunt, as was Branson's bid for a Concorde, to a certain extent...

qantasA332


User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5452 times:

Sure, Branson is the master of the PR stunt - but he's just working the system. It goes back to his very early days of running his Student magazine and record shop - he couldn't afford the advertising but learnt that editorial was free.

He's a media man's dream, since he's always available for comment or a photo op. Other CEO's shield themselves from the press; Branson craves it. I don't see than as a bad thing - and certainly not a reason for avoiding his airline.

It seems common to bash Branson for his publicity, but I figure he's a clever businessman who is running multiple profitable businesses - including an international airline. Others who are merrily running their airlines into bankruptcy don't get nearly the same rough ride at the hands of a.net or flyertalk; but maybe that's because we don't know their names  Smile

Pix


User currently offlineTony Lu From China, joined Sep 2000, 534 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5418 times:

I posted a topic about this about a few weeks ago with more information. EmiratesA345 please use the search engine. http://airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1295967/6/

Tony


User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5390 times:

Pixuk --
Branson being "the master of the PR stunt" certainly doesn't preclude him being a clever businessman -- he certainly is a clever businessman, and he's doing well as a result!

qantasA332


User currently offlineLZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

"His team has constructed a specially designed aircraft"

Plain lie. The aircraft is (being) constructed by Scaled Composites. And SRB will definitively not the first to do this. Dick Rutan and Jeana Yeager did it back in 1986 with Burt Rutan's Voyager.

Check six and get your facts straight


User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

LZ-TLT, good point. I read an article about the GlobalFlyer in which it said that, but it somehow slipped my mind...thanks for noticing it.

As for it being done before, I'm afraid not -- yes, Rutan and Yeager have flown around the world, but it hasn't been done solo, as the Branson team is planning on doing.

qantasA332


User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5307 times:

Yup, but Nudelhirsch's comment "still wanna fly his airline" because he can work the media isn't much of an argument against, although it is a common low ball hurled at Virgin.

He overpromises on equipment upgrades (J2000 seats, double beds, etc), and that's a valid critisicm; but 'he's good at publicity'? It's a bit thin.

I'll admit I'm a Virgin customer, and I'll be the first one to yell when they screw up; but I do hate to see 'publicity-seeking' used over and over again as a reason why RB is a bad guy. Every other airline pays their PR companies a small fortune to do exactly what Branson is up to - it's just Branson is happy to use himself to get those column inches.

Pix.


User currently offlineEmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2121 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

"As far as I knew it would be a solo flight, with Fosset the primary pilot and Branson the secondary pilot (not both on the flight together)"

I think both will be inside. I could be wrong though. When one is sleeping, the other must control... right? Or maybe the autopilot would fly it?

"I posted a topic about this about a few weeks ago with more information. EmiratesA345 please use the search engine."

Thanks Tony. I really don't need the search engine bullshit. I did use it. Nothing came up. It sounds to me as if your upset because your thread got "0" replies.

"Check six and get your facts straight"

Get your eyes checked son. Look at the aircraft. Have you seen another one like it?

No.

Therefore it is specially designed. You get your facts straight before posting your nonsense.

I think this will be an amazing airplane, and hopefully everything will go well! This is an awesome record to beat, so why shouldn't he do it? Some say he's a master of PR stunts, I think its pure genius!

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



You and I were meant to fly, Air Canada!
User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4966 times:

Pixuk, I didn't intend to say anything bad about Branson or his airline, actually it's sad, they don't serve my routes, so I would have three or more stops, which I don't want, I would fly Virgin any time!
I rather write my comment, to slow down or prevent any endless discussion of the project, as there was before with his concorde bid, with his bet versus BA...
I think he is a great businessman and as being one he knows how to play the media game successfully.



Putana da Seatbeltz!
User currently offlineJMChladek From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

As far as I've been able to read, this will be a solo attempt. I'm guessing that Steve is the primary pilot and Richard will go only if he can get permission from his insurance company to do so. Looking at pictures of the plane, I don't see how 2 people can fit in it. Even if it was a two person attempt, it would be a record setting flight for a JET airplane as Voyager was piston engine powered. Considering Richard lost the round the world balloon race to Piccard and Fawcett's solo stint, it doesn't surprise me that he's going for something with wings this time.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (10 years 4 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4826 times:

Nudelhirsch

"Arright...one day VS will presemt a monkey steering five A346 at the same time...as long as press, media, TV, and a.net are full of it...
commercials for free...awesome...

still wanna fly his airline...hmmm"

I choose to fly his Airline any day!

So tell me when was the last time you heard about Mr Geoff Dixon handing out personal checks to his (hard working) 35,000 staff? I have respect for Branson & his approach to business.

Good Luck Branson wish you all the best!



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineNoelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Oh dear - there he goes again!

I thought 3 weeks was a long time without a publicity stunt from RB - but he caught us out on this one!

 Insane


User currently offlineLZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

EmiratesA345:

If you're bashing at me for no reason, I would suggest you to read THIS page:
http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/about_the_aircraft.html

Read carefully, and here is what you will find in the second text block:
"...The Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer looks like no other plane because it is designed to do what no other plane can. Engineered by Scaled Composites...

And about "Have you seen another one like it?"

YES. If you look carefully, you will find out that the design resembles a lot of the original Voyager design with newer elements which look very similar to other Scaled Composites designs(ie White Knight, Proteus).

The only reason the aircraft isn't mentioned on Scaled's website is their policy not to announce their projects until they have flown for the first time.

So, check YOUR eyes


User currently offlineEmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2121 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

LZ-TLT,

No son. You need your eyes checked. What I was referring to was the style of this aircraft. The way it looks. It isn't the typical long tube with wings and engines. It is truly different.

Sure, there have been similar designs, but not the same.

Therefore, this aircraft was designed specifically for this mission.

EmiratesA345 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



You and I were meant to fly, Air Canada!
User currently offlineLZ-TLT From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

Given the fact, I was several years old as you were born, it is highly interesting, how you can be my father...and I never remember my father being as retarded as you are.

And, if you bothered to read - I was referring to SRB telling lies about WHO constructed the aircraft "his team". Well, perfectly clear. SRB is the genius and Burt Rutan and all the thinking heads behind the design are just monkeys. And, even if he is referring th Scaled Composites as "his team"....since when does he have the engineering skills and owns a share in the company?


User currently offlinePixuk From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 322 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

Steady! There's no point throwing your teddies out of the pram over such minor details  Smile

Sounds more like a playground fight than a disscussion.

Pix.


25 Post contains images EmiratesA345 : Thanks Pix. It is his team. He is apart of this project, just as much as everyone else. After all, HIS airline is sponsoring it. Son, is a saying. Not
26 QantasA332 : Sorry, a bit late on this reply, but no, I do think it will be piloted solo (i.e. one person in the aircraft), with Branson a backup if Fosset is sick
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