SAS767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 401 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2770 times:
LGW-CPH could be a possibility - they already hold slots at CPH for a service to LGW.
In other news Easyjet plans to launch a CPH-Malaga route from June 2004 - this information came from Peter van der Heijden (Easyjet's marketing manager for Holland and Scandinavian) in connection with the opening of the Bristol-CPH route two days ago.
SAS767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 401 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2704 times:
Unfortunately I don't know the exact situation for Maersk on the CPH-LGW route - but I suppose it's profitable as they still operates it (in recent years they have cut their most lost giving destinations out of the network)
Anyway I wouldn't expect direct competition between EZY and Maersk on this route, as they in my opinion would aim at different customer segments.
Unique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 38 Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2422 times:
I've been involved with the negotiations EasyJet had with ZRH Airport. What they wanted from the airport was simply beyond common sense.
One example is to get 1 million Swiss Francs (approx USD 798'000 or GBP 450'000) as kick-back for each airplane they base at ZRH. The usual request to lower the fees for them (and only for them as otherwise, they're again not competitive enough) was turned down in order not to discriminate other carriers.
There were a lot of other "requests" from EasyJet...
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
But if LX go under(not that far stretched), I would expect EZY to be back at the negotiating table.Will the LTN flights stay?Either way this is a shame as the LGW schedule allowed for a full day at ZRH.
RyanairA320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2293 times:
Is there any chance of Easyjet beginning operations out of Dublin. I think it would be great. That would be another large scale Ryanair base that Easyjet would trespass into.
I love it when Ryanair gets competition because their prices drop through the floor and beyond the basement until they run their opponent out of the airport. This has happened with Go and I really hope MyTravelLite can survive
Ryanair 'The Low Fares Airline' and now also 'The On-time Airline'
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4112 posts, RR: 31 Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
They are also negotiating with AIG (Aéroport Intercontinental de Genève).
EasyJet is unhappy with the fees in Geneva but the AIG does not want to lower them.
They delayed the new contract with EasyJet from the 15.12.2003 to an unknown date...
AIG now considers to reopen old facilities at Geneva airport which could be operated with less money.
Boieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
regarding GVA-easyJet negociations it is a bit more complicated. Both were negociating to in order that the airport would redo the charter terminal and give it to easyJet. In return easyJet would sign a contract over the next 5 years where 1 extra aircraft would be added each year.
These negociations leaked out into the press, following which the other airlines (notably Air France, Swiss, Lufthansa), threatened the airport and ready to attack the airport in justice for price discrimination.
In order to get around this it was decided last week that the charter terminal would be modernized and put it to disposition of any airline wanting to operate from there as long as space was available. Airport costs in the charter terminal would be about 25-40% lower than in the main terminal, which remain pretty low compared to the European average. Although the other airlines are screaming their heads off, this is already being done by Ryanair in Dublin without any problems.
Obviously it looks as if easyJet has become pretty sneaky lately in their business practices...
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4112 posts, RR: 31 Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2181 times:
Thanks for the detailed information Tim
I was reading something about that in the Le Temps and Tribune de Genéve newspapers last week but I was not sure if I have understand everything (my French is not that good and this is also the reason why I read the Geneva newspapers from time to time )
Scf158 From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
I do hope that easyjet's base in GVA grows some more... I am hoping that they will eventually start Geneva-Berlin. Does anyone think the GVA base will grown in terms of destinations? Or is that completely out of the question?
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1889 times:
I think easyJet is using landing charges as an excuse and doesn't want to admit that the route is a failiure or they will face a backlash from Ryanair. As both airlines have a "love hate" relationship.
I have always thought it is strange for easyJet to have three major bases in the London area both at LTN, STN and LGW and operating virtually identical routes (Although easyJet has inherited a lot of routes from Go at STN when thry took them over). When easyJet first launched routes out of LGW I thought they would have reduced the frequency of there same routes from LTN but this has never really happened.
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1821 times:
Can some of you Europeans help me understand all of the secondary London airports? ie a map w/ all LON airports, travel times and services from central London to each; runways, faciliites, expansion capabilities, major operators at LTN, STN, LCY?
RJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4112 posts, RR: 31 Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1793 times:
Heathrow: West of London
Gatwick: South of London
Luton: North of London: EasyJet base, charter traffic
Stansted: North-East of London: Ryanair base, EasyJet base (after they have bought GO)
City: in the heart of London
www.baa.co.uk website for Heathrow, Gatwick, Stansted
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1770 times:
London Airport Locations
Let's assume LCY is in central London (in reality it is 2-3 miles east of the centre but essentially less than a mile from the business district).
LHR is 22 miles West of London
LGW is 27 miles South of London
STN is 27 miles Northeast of London
LTN is 31 miles Northwest of London
Access from the City
LHR is reachable from London by tube or coach in about 45 minutes, or the pricey but excellent Heathrow Express from Paddington Station in 15 minutes.
LGW is linked by the Gatwick Express train to Victoria Station in about 30 minutes.
STN is linked by the (unreliable and with several stops) Stansted Express train in about 45 minutes.
LTN is linked by Midland Mainline from St Pancras in 25 minutes, or the (more regular) Thameslink from Kentish Town station in about 40 minutes.
Road-wise LHR and LGW are essentially placed on the M25 London Orbital motorway (LGW on a short M23 spur to the South of the Orbital). LTN is on the M1 north of the Orbital while STN lies on the M11 Northeast of the Orbital.
All these roads are horrendous to travel on and you would be foolish to attempt to travel on them to any of the aforementioned airports during the 18 hours per day they are gridlocked.
LHR and LGW take the bulk of the scheduled traffic, LGW taking holiday charter flights as well
STN and LTN are generally loaded with low-cost carriers, but also have holiday charter (much less than LGW of course) and limited "full-service" scheduled carriers.
Runways (approx lengths)
LHR has two 12,000ft runways
LGW has a single 10,000ft runway
STN has a single 10,000ft runway
LTN has a single 8,000ft runway
LCY has a single 5,000ft runway
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...