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User currently offlineCs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
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Has anyone heard about changes in the rules about using metal forks and knives in the cabin again? They are tough to work with, and they look bad with a nice meal!

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User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Apparently they are permitted once again, but rather it is an airline decision to not use them.

User currently offlineCOAB767 From Guam, joined Nov 2003, 1377 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

At Continental Micro, we use metal fork and spoons and plastic knives.


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User currently offlineMAS A330 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

I got metal cutlery on my flights yesterday and today

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

MAS A330:

Were you flying in the US?

I'm not for these stupid rules about short, dull blades ("It's a nail-clipper, fer chrissakes!!!"). However, I doubt many people in this country are comfortable with the idea of real knives and such on airplanes.

Yet.



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User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2002 times:

Get over the "Fear" of the past 9-11 World!

We live in a day in age that people are allowed to bring lighters, nail polish remover, and reading spectacles onborad aircraft and not a simple nail file!

Get over it....

Do you think that someone isnt going to attempt to set a seat or a lavatory on fire with a lighter?

Do you think that nail polish remover is not going to be used a ignition source for a fire?

Do you think that reading spectacles cant be used to stab a person?

Do you think that a plastic duty-fre bag cant be used to somther a person?

And we are allpetrified about a knife that is being given to a passenger in First Class that is paying several thousands of dollars for his/her ticket! Wow... get a grip!

Yes, it is true that box-cutters were used in the 9-11 incident. You now must also realize that the Flight Attendants have near nothing to defend themselves with. At one time they were allowed to bring a pocket knife that also served as a wine opener. now they are left with apthetic self-defense courses. If you have seen the sizes of some of these Flight Attendants you would be amazed if they could even life one of their hefty legs into the air!


LHR001


User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

"What if a passenger has really big hands? Those could be used as a weapon."

-George Carlin


User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

Lhr001:

I wasn't saying I agree with the restrictions. I think they're as stupid as you do.

But it's public perception that matters, and a lot of airlines are going to look at their passenger's fears and simply say, "not us."

You and I believe in principles (though often enough different principles). Unfortunately, the world operates on emotion, conjecture, and perception, not principle.



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User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Here is a question-

How is a person paying $10.000 for a ticket in First from Los Angeles to London going to cut their steak?


LHR001


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

How is a person paying $10.000 for a ticket in First from Los Angeles to London going to cut their steak?

If one paid only $10 for their First Class LAX-LHR ticket, then why would they be complaining? Jeeze, you can't even buy a cooked steak for $10...  Innocent


User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

The steaks come pre-cut from catering (at least they do on AA). Looks like somebody has already had a go at eating them..... which is why I've been sticking to the rotisserie chicken meal the past few weeks.

User currently offlineWorldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

I had missed thread. Northwest, at least, has been using all-metal cutlery since September. But their rather blunt knives are less of a threat then school scissors.  Smile



User currently offlineFlyingBanker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

I was pleasantly surprise to see a metal knife on my AS flight from SEA-AS / KLAS), USA - Nevada">LAS in F/C last Oct. But those knifes are so dull anyway I doubt you easily slit someone's throat, maybe jabbing at them really hard might do something. I think the full size bottles or wine or champagne would be more of a danger....breaking one and cutting someone with that would be quite easy.

User currently offlineNwacrew From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

As Worldperks stated, Northwest introduced re-designed metal dinner knives in September, with a serrated cutting edge, but a blunt end. I don't suppose they'd please a chef from Benihana, but they're an improvement over plastic.

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12468 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1726 times:
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I don't understand the logic here - flying EK LHR-DXB you get plastic knives, but flying EK DXB-DOH you get metal knives. Both legs were business class.

BA seems to be plastic everywhere (even 1st class).

[Edited 2003-12-21 01:09:06]


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User currently offlinePER744 From Australia, joined Mar 2003, 405 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

If I was flying first clas I'd expect my steak to be tender enough to only need the bluntest of knives.

User currently offlineScf158 From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

Im surprised they dont take away our belts... those could be a potential danger!

My brother is a musician and they took away his music stand when he went through security! I mean common...


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2637 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

I think a ball-point pen is more dangerous than a blunt knife that you might get with a meal.

There are so many other threats:

Break a wine bottle, use jagged edges/pieces
Strangle people with belts
Throw laptop batteries upside peoples heads (ouch!)
Bring power supplies to electronics and whip them around fast by the cord and release with aim

Our only defense is to use the seat cushion as a shield...  Smile



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User currently offlineAMM744 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Some of these comments are so funny that I'm still laughing like hell 10 minutes later.

B4real, Prodtoflyaa you've made my day !!!

I'm still in stitches and can barely type.


User currently offlineAMM744 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Seriously, I know it's no laughing matter especially in light of 9-11 but this kind of humor helps with the paranoia.

User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1585 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

The real reason for plastic cutlery is that it is cheaper to buy and is disposable, so no washing or polishing to do!




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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 968 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

On four AC flights this past week..

2 flights economy: all meal utensils plastic

2 flights business class:

China plates, glassware for wine and spirits, stainless fork, stainless spoon and cheap white PLASTIC knife!!

What gives?

Their metal fork has always been more 'deadly' than the blunt metal butter knife they had pre-9112001 anyway. The metal knife just has a better chance of surviving spreading half-frozen butter without snapping into pieces.

Is this business class, or nursery school?



LD4



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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1985 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

All the Qantas international flights offer the meals with stainless steel cultury in the Economy Class.


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User currently offlineStefandotde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

If people wanna use weapons, they do.
And with knifes I saw on board from planes I can cut a steak but can't kill anybody.
Ok, there are nationalities who don't care about style, they even drink champagne out of plastic-cups but fortunately there are other civilzed countries  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineAviationman From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

We at First Air (7F) opted for plastic cutlery all the way. Our decision was based on "metal fork, metal spoon and plastic knife".....really looks tacky. Plastic all the way!

Marcel


25 Dutchjet : CO recently re-introduced metal knives on international services in coach and business first (was metal spoon and fork + plastic knife)......it just l
26 Tbear815 : All problems resolved - catering by Jamba Juice. Menu choices consist of wheat grass, various bursts, etc. to give passengers a variation. (of course,
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