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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8329 times:

Ok lets build an airline. Starting as a US based carrier, then to expand internationally. First main point to address is Hub locations and route structure, then A/C types, Fares, Amenities, and so on.

For Hub locations my picks are DEN for the main hub, not because I live there (although that is part of it  Smile ), then for east coast would be MIA, and for the west coast SEA. Routes would be mostly Hub/spoke from these locations, but some point to point between focus cities such as Oakland, Omaha, MSP, DTW, Oklahoma City, LGA, BWI, FLL, and PHX.

Aircraft would be 738, 752, 772, and A320 Family. Regionals would fly Bae-146, DHC Dash-8, and Embraer Brazilia.

Of course It would be a non union LCC with IFE and meal service every flight, and Two class cabin, but my idea with first class is that you can't just come in off the street, that you have to earn FF, and FF will get you first class all the way when you use it, in other words, if you use your FF, you will automatically fly First class.

Any thoughts?

DLKAPA

and P.S. if this was done before, I apologize, as Forum Search only works for First Class members.





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User currently offlineCOAB767 From Guam, joined Nov 2003, 1377 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8252 times:

Nice, but I would prefer to have an airline without Airbus A320s


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User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8225 times:

Build an airline? Hrm....

- One class configuration
- Leather seats
- IFE in every seat (purchased for nominal fee at point of ticket purchase, but also pay-for-view on board using a credit card)
- Optional hot- & cold-meal service (bought as an add-on at point of ticket purchase)
- Internet portal used as central point of all ticket sales
- In-house kitchenmeal prep
- snacks and non-alchoholic beverages are free
- Five- or Six-type fleet only, preferably from one manufacturer

That's a start.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlinePlanemannyc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1007 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8213 times:
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Goose,

Other than the in-house kitchen, you already have that airline: JetBlue. Ok, so make the IFE a bit more fancy -- you can have JetBlue with Song IFE!

As for Eric --

yours sounds more like one of the traditional (and most likely money-losing) majors! Sorry to rain on your 'virtual' parade, but I think any new airline in the US has to be a LCC. Your route structure sounds pretty neat, though.





User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8188 times:

Goose,

Other than the in-house kitchen, you already have that airline: JetBlue. Ok, so make the IFE a bit more fancy -- you can have JetBlue with Song IFE!

--

Well, my ideal airline would be "one-class" system.... but would also be more of a "network" carrier in terms of utilizing a hybrid hub-and-spoke system while offering point-to-point on some "regional" flights. The airline would be set up for international routes as well - again, in a one-class configuration. To me, it doesn't make sense to have a difference of hundreds of dollars for two seats on the same airplane.

I would offer scheduled service as the backbone of the airline business, but also offer charter operations to "sun" destinations in partnership with a vacation-package company.

The meal service I added because catering companies charge ridiculous sums for in-flight meals. Those disgusting "chicken or fish" meals of yesteryear (and still lurking on some airlines) usually cost $30 a pop or more. It can be done better, perhaps using McDonald's-style line production or the type of preparation found in any restaurant - made-to-order and delivered to the flight before departure, depending on which customer is where and what he or she ordered.



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineMd11lover From Switzerland, joined Oct 2003, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8137 times:



I think a nice wavey light blue livery would be nice. Something of a mic between the patterns of the new aeroflot and the colors of Korean or KLM.

Md11lover


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8087 times:

DLKAPA

"Ok lets build an airline. Starting as a US based carrier, then to expand internationally. First main point to address is Hub locations and route structure, then A/C types, Fares, Amenities, and so on".

"Aircraft would be 738, 752, 772, and A320 Family. Regionals would fly Bae-146, DHC Dash-8, and Embraer Brazilia".

Okay, lets build the airline from the ground up & NOT the other way around!

As far as the aircraft type's you selected I would select the B738 to commence "REVENUE" Domestic services as it has great range capabilities. Regionals I would select the DHC Dash-8 range. You wouldn't require B752's (except on the high density routes). B772's would be better suited for the International Market.

You should consider what cost base & market your trying to attract either LCC or Full Service Carrier. A LCC wouldn't require Amenities & Catering, BUT, on the other hand a Full Service Carrier would require these extras.

As far as HUB Location, it all falls into the LCC OR Full Service Carrier catergory. Selecting major Hubs you would face high landing fees & taxes, ground handling fees etc. A airport that isn't well established would like to attract a NEW carrier with LOWER fees!

To become profitable carrier & let alone a well known carrier you have to start off establishing your airline with domestic destinations & when demand for international routes is high then & only then re-think your fleet options.

Well, that's my idea on starting up my airline.

Any comments???




Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8077 times:

Cessna 207,

Hanger

Basketball net in the back of the hanger.




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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8039 times:

Ill start off by donating 1000 €.

Now where are we gonna get the rest of the 49,999,000 €?  Confused


User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1247 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 8010 times:

I would recommend to use Boston as the east coast hub and Oakland as the eastcoast hub and Ft. Lauderdale for flight to South America!
Aircraft: 737-700/800/900, B-767`s (until the 787-200 is available!), 777

Flights from BOS to LGW/CDG/FRA/MUC/MAN/CPH/ZRH/ATH/MAD/TLV/HKG/NRT
Flights from OAK to LGW/FRA/NRT/HKG/KIX/SYD/AKL/MNL/TPE/SHA
Flights from FLL to LGW/CDG/FRA/MAD/GRU/GIG/BUE/SCL and the rest of South America!

IFE on all Aircrafts, Business Class (BusinessONE Class and Comfort Class)
Meal Service on all flights over 1500 miles, Snack Serivce on all Flights.
FF Programm and Codeshare with Virgin Atlantic, Olympic Airlines (the new one), Eva Air etc.

Build up a world class airline everybody wants to fly with. We do need an Emirates/Singapore Airlines/Virgin Atlantic like airline in the US.
An Airlines other airlines talk about!

Name: ???



Fly easyJet
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6769 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7896 times:

OK, guys, how about having a little bit a constraint here...

"Let's build an airline for less than $20m"

Now, that makes it a completely yet more realistic ball game Big grin Enough about hearing dreams about wanting to start an airline with a megahub, and various IFEs...

Now, any takers?

Mandala499



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User currently offlineIlikeYYC From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7832 times:

If I were to build this airline, I would choose the B737-700 for domestic flights as well as the CRJ-200 for regional stuff. I like the prop planes, but the general public doesn't know squat about aviation and they seem to think that jets are somehow safer than prop planes. I would stick with just two types of aircraft to keep costs down.

I would start with the North American market at first and wait a long time before going to another continent. I have notices a general lack of LCC flights between the US and Canada. Maybe we could capitalize on that. America West is doing a good job across the border.

I would put my hub at Kansas City (MCI) given that it is in the middle of the USA and the continent for that matter.

I also think that if the point to point stuff works for Southwest and the Hub and spoke works for many others, why not combine the two. Have half of the Available Seat Miles (ASMs) going in and out of MCI and the other half of the ASMs on point to point flights that do not go to MCI.

Since business travel is the heart of most of the airlines, I would target the business traveler as my main customer.

I would not try to copy another airline's ways of success, but I would be sure not to copy the ways others have failed.

Remember, the only way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a big one!



Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7810 times:

my VA is a LCC that flies 3 class 767-400s and 3 class 737-800s. The name: Florida Caribbean Virtual Airways (callsign FloridaCa... FC)
First Class....designed exactly to DL specs! I took the DL models to design the planes, so it worked out best
Caribbean Traveler: basicly economy plus! (first 3 to 5 rows)
Coach: DLs coach, but the first few rows are removed!

we fly from 3 hubs
BOS, FLL, DEN

we fly to:
LAX, LAS, SEA, SFO, DFW, ATL, LGA, JFK, HNL, OGG, ANC, BDA, NAS, SXM, SJU, AUA, MBJ, KIN (VIA MBJ), POS, Barbados and STT...
with plans to add in 2004:
ABQ
PHX
TUS
SLC
IAH
MIA
PVD
DL / KBDL), USA - Connecticut">BDL
FAI
STL
ORD
Saint Croix
PDX
SNA
SAN
LGB
OAK
Reno
Sacramento
Vail/Aspen
Colorado Springs
BNA
MEX
Bogota
and Caracas

and who knows where after that!

service starts in March 2004, hiring this JANRUARY!


User currently offlineAnt72LBA From United Kingdom, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7778 times:

Ok, I'm in dreamland here but if LBA can keep the fees down why not go for the novelty value of flying here instead of MAN. Must be worth at least a daily service with a 744............................. (and then I woke up!).

Seriously I don't think we could build an airline in the traditional sense in the current market. It would have to start out as an LCC or a niche carrier seeking out those margins like a bloodhound!


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7731 times:

My airline would be named, in the spirit of the latest round of airlines:

Yippee!

yep, that's the name.

Mixed fleet of 717's, A340's, and 727's.

Full service, first class leather seating, and fully competitve fares as well as a strategic and state of the art route network:












User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7671 times:

Y'all realize that the above proposed route map is a joke, right?

User currently offlineSprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7653 times:

Hey Matt D, hope the A340s fly Pocatello-Presque Isle,that would be a real moneymaker. I see Jackson has moved to where Gulfport is.Better location?

Now,forget any mainline type planes and focus all CRJ-700/-900. Two class service,all seats have IFE/PTV.
Hub city-OKC. Forget MCI,terminal layout blows for any type of mass connections.
Routes: OKC-SEA,SFO,LAX,PHX-SAN,LAS,HOU,MSY,BNA,ATL,MCO,PIE,CLT,DCA,EWR,MDW,MSP.
Maybe have a "network" airline as OUR codeshare. United,the TranSky Airlines link.
Have a FF program based on trips flown,with bonus by fare paid.
I bet it would operate for about 9 months!!


Fly TranSky Airlines,the best choice thru the air!


User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7610 times:

Hub: MCI

Aircraft Boeing 717-200. All one Class 2 by 2. Leather IFE each seat. Cap 92 approx 33 inch pitch.

Inflight Service: Beverages and light snacks.

Service to major US cities from MCI. Coast to Coast and up and down the Midwest.


BOS LGA EWR DCA IAD ATL MCO TPA FLL MIA DTW ORD MDW MSP TUL OKC OMA DFW AUS SAT HOU ABQ DEN SLC PHX TUS LAS SAN LAX SFO SMF PDX SEA RNO MKE STL CMH

The Name: "THE PLANE" "Never get caught in the middle" ( remember 2by2 seating)

Ah and Happiness was had by all. Oh. I would make Piedmont Girl the Training Department Head. Just think of how nice all the flight attendants would be.


Safe Flying and Happy Holidays  Smile



Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4192 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7558 times:

heres my fleet... all one seniority list: From a pilots perspective.. this is an airline i would want to fly for... best of all worlds, and cool route capabilities  Smile




DCH-8 Q400- efficient short range
CRJ-200- slightly longer range, low density
ERJ-170, 190-ditto.. a tad more density
A319, A320- domestic... you get the idea
B-757-200, B767-400- domestic heavy
A-330-200, A330-300-european and asian
A-340-500/600- long range
B-747-400/400F- long range heavy ops- also cargo....


IFE in all seats for every aircraft larger than a CRJ.. the pay for a meal basis ticket...

Bases.. hmm... seattle, dallas, tampa, and newark, boston or new york....


Sounds good to me!



Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

Flyguyclt:

Oh. I would make Piedmont Girl the Training Department Head. Just think of how nice all the flight attendants would be.

I would be honored to be the head of your Training Department. What a grand lot of fun that would be. Such a nice airplane and such nice service could be done. Just lovely.


User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7460 times:

Here's what I would like to do:

I would like to build an airline along the lines that JetBlue did. I would name it Atlantic & Pacific Airlines, reflecting the fact that it flies from coast to coast and that it serves destinations in Europe and in the Pacific Rim, as well as elsewhere. I would offer to help with United's financial problems by offering to buy their Pacific network. My concentration would be on trunk routes and international routes. There would be several variations of Atlantic & Pacific. I would operate a dedicated fleet of corporate jets and specially outfitted luxury aircraft. I would also operate a LCC, along with the mainline operations. All three entities would operate under the same name, but the differences would be denoted by different colors. For example, the luxury and corporate aircraft would be painted purple and gold. The mainline operations would be blue and gold. The low-cost operations would be red and gold.

Fleet would be all Boeing--737, 747, 757, 767 and 777.

737-700 Domestic
737-800 Domestic
747-400 International
757-200 Domestic
767-300 Domestic/International
777-200 High-density domestic/International

As much as possible, I would try to operate point-to-point network, but I would place my hubs at JFK, ORD, BNA, DFW and LAX. Nashville would be the base of operations. No airline is based there and it is a relatively lightly used airport with a lot of potential. The domestic network would be coast-to-coast and evenly spread throughout all of America. I would also operate routes to Latin America, Europe, Asia and the Pacific. Latin America would primarily be served from JFK, DFW and LAX. Europe and Asia would be served from JFK and ORD. The Pacific Rim would be served primarily from LAX. BNA and ORD would be the main domestic hubs.


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7433 times:

Here is mine:

Type: Scheduled service and charter
Name: Cloud Nine
Fleet: four J31s two Metros
Base: Provo UT
Destinations: Twin Falls, Pocatello, Idaho Falls, Rexburg, Phoenix, North Las Vegas, Boise, Cheyene, Denver, Reno, Elko




Pershoyu Spravoyu Litaki!
User currently offlineFrontiers4ever From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7425 times:

Well my routes would be a little different. RDU would be my east coast Hub. Wichita, Kansas as central hub and SEA as West coast hub. SEA Because it is farther north than LAX and SFO making Asia that much closer. Wichita because it is centralized and RDU because it is in the middle of the east coast making central and south America close and Europe close.
Fleet would consist of
737-700, 800 at first with IFE and snacks.
After a couple of years get the 7E7 once the airline is established. Having both the Stretch and baseline and short range. Anything over 6 hours have meals on the flights. Also the key to my airlines success would not be great interiors of airplanes but rather a more luxurious terminal area such as couches. The part that most people hate is waiting for the plane why not make it better? Just a start.

-Frontiers4ever



Until you prove, your right, your wrong
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7415 times:

Hey MattD,

How did you generate that Route map?



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7405 times:

L-188

Simple:

1. Opened Excel program, inserted a map of the US into a cell.

2. Open "Paint" program.

3. Paste map into paint.

4. Using "brush", clicked on dots to represent cities.

5. Selected text in the empty field, typed in city code.

6. Cut text, pasted on map, then dragged to correct spot.

7. Selected lines, and drew "routes".

8. Saved as a jpeg file.

9. Uploaded to my personal web storage site.

10. Posted here.


25 L-188 : OK, you hand drew it. Thought maybe there was some super-duper route planning webside available.
26 Cjuniel : I have watched the action on here for quite a while, and decided to join tonight to add my 2 cents to this post. My airline would be based in Washingt
27 Tcfc424 : Okay, I will play along. My aircraft fleet would be B712 and B738, configured in a 2-3 configuration with 20" width and 34" pitch. One class, premium
28 Elwood64151 : Primary hub city: MCI Focus cities: PHL, LAS For the first three years, operate from a largest available gate area at MCI (currently proposed 12 gate
29 DLKAPA : Capitalize from every hub and focus city on the Canada market. Fly at first 2 flights, then expanding as needed from YUL, YYZ, YOW, YVR, and YWG. Cash
30 KBUF737 : Hmm....after some pondering not to mention a multi-billion dollar bankroll A SYSTEM OF SUPER AIRPORTS 3 of them: One outside of Reno, One outside of K
31 MD11Engineer : I would the hell stay away from pax business, too much competition and psychology involved. I would try to find a parcel company like UPS or Fedex, ge
32 Expressjetphx : First: Aircraft would be 738, 752, 772, and A320 Family. Regionals would fly Bae-146, DHC Dash-8, and Embraer Brazilia Why have new 73Xs and A32Xs in
33 Expressjetphx : I've got another one: Eastwind Airlines Mk II Serves TPA, FLL, PBI, ROA, PSM, DET, BLV, GSO and ATL from TTN, and TPA, FLL, PBI, PSM, DET, BLV, ATL, I
34 Elwood64151 : I would the hell stay away from pax business, too much competition and psychology involved. And there isn't psychology involved in getting people to c
35 InnocuousFox : Can't see why you would take the 738 AND the A320. That's not very cost efficient. A whole separate set of maintenance parts and proceedures for what
36 NJT916 : Best Planes + Best Routes + Cheapest Fares does not equal the "Best Airline." In my opinion, you need to start out with a great staff. I think Southw
37 Post contains images DLKAPA : for F/A's we could get playboy involved ok, eliminate the A320 family, instead use 738 for low density long-haul, and (going out on a wing here), serv
38 QANTAS747 : I have a theory of thinking outside the square. Everybody here is talking about operating out of the US. Well if you ask me (might only be cause I'm A
39 MD11Engineer : Ellwood64151, Cargo is more constant. E.G. after 9/11 the passenger traffic dropped BUT air cargo increased. People might be afraid to fly themselves,
40 Westjet_8 : Wardair (MK 2) My airline would attpemt to do the same as Wardair except in the modren would of the internet I think it would work. 717-200 service co
41 Prinair : Western Airlines (Purchase the name from DL) Base- ONT (Ontario, California) Fleet- 737.800 (Winglets) Class of service- Y Offering a single class of
42 RamerinianAir : This was me for the longest time ... then I bought Airline 5. It's great!!!! You can do whatever you want and see if it will work. -S.R.
43 Elwood64151 : NJT916: You're absolutely right. You can have the best planes and the best food and all that crap, but if the service sucks, the airline will fail. Ra
44 Post contains images InnocuousFox : "Airline 5 may be the most advanced airline sim out there," So far...
45 Flpuck6 : I haven't read in too much detail (I'll go back), but someone could very well take some good inspiration and actually start an airline based on all th
46 FLTGUY : Hey guys let trying keeping out of the major league airlines and start off with 738's, and go from there all this dash this, md that, airbus this, put
47 APAOps5 : FLTGUY, right on! It does seem foolish to make an airline out of "what is your favorite airplane" opposed to flying what the demand can support. I did
48 InnocuousFox : You have hit on the reason that I refuse to get involved in this thread. So far, it is mostly about what "sounds cool" and what would be "really neat"
49 Goose : FLTGUY, right on! It does seem foolish to make an airline out of "what is your favorite airplane" opposed to flying what the demand can support. I did
50 Starrion : Most of the airlines envision new aircraft. What about starting up with some of the better maintained 722's parked in the desert, along with some of t
51 Elwood64151 : Westjet and Southwest are all making profits, think smart, think small. Remember, WN is flying three generations of 737s. I believe you can fly a -200
52 Gigneil : The -600/700/800/900 are the same type endorsement as the classics. You can configure the displays for classic 737 or 777like. N
53 Elwood64151 : Thanks for clearing that up. 738s are still a lot more expensive than 733s!
54 Post contains images Aviationfreak : Mmmm...., I would calll the airline Airliners.net and they'll fly in the colors of this website of cours. A.net members automaticaly join the FF-progr
55 Post contains images ACB777 : My airline would be based in Canada operating out of YVR, YYZ, YEG, YWG, YOW, YYZ, YUL, and Halifax. Between these cities, there would be domestic fli
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