Eric From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7354 times:
How does an airplane cross the ocean? I mean those planes who's range can't make it across the ocean? Say a plane from Airbus that is to be delievered in America? I've seen the photos of the A380 hybrid that Airbus use for transport, do they dismantle in Europe and send over like furniture from IKEA? Any answers would be appreciated very much.
Markyboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 7258 times:
Without any pax/baggage and cargo and with winds many aircraft can make it transatlantic. Usually they fly routes that involve fuel stops or in some instances they fit additional fuel tanks inside the aircraft where the seats go. Airbus use Prestwick Airport near me to gas and go before delivery to the US and will sometimes make further stops in either Iceland, Canada or the US before they reach their ultimate destination.
The A380 hybrid that you refer to is actually a modified A300. Kind of like IKEA aircraft manufacturers have component parts build elsewhere for final assembly at one particular place, they don't however deliver "flat packed" for assembly by their customers which is just as well as it's hard enough to build an IKEA chest of drawers let alone an airliner LOL.
PilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 7213 times:
A buddy of mine flies the King Air, I believe it's a 200 , and he took it from New York to Iceland and from Iceland to Norway two years ago. He landed in Iceland to pick up more fuel and then it was back to the air. Im sure they stop for fuel along the way on delivery flights or add additional fuel tanks as OPNLguy said.
Trident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6610 times:
No big deal really. When I was an avid spotter in the 70s, I used to regularly log deliveries of small single engined aircraft and light twins such as Cessna 172s, Beech Bonanzas, Cessna 421s etc as they staged through Shannon on their way from the US to Europe. On one occasion I remember logging two Britten Norman Islanders going in the opposite direction (Israel to the Caribbean).
LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6518 times:
A little off topic. I recall reading here that Large aircraft like 747's are not simply ferried empty from Seattle. The space is used to ferry food and medicine destined for third world countries, free of charge of course. It's a nice gesture. Virgin carries employees as a reward or by some kind of lottery.
4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6511 times:
1. How do they get those tanks into the airplane? They look much bigger than any door.
2. Does all the commercial aircraft manufactured so they can have additional fuel tanks? Or did they have to change the fuel system of the aircraft?
Skyhawk From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6352 times:
Years ago when Pan Am took over National, I was told that to get the 727's across the pond they stripped everything from the inside they could, loaded extra tanks, and flew up over Newfoundland-Greenland-Iceland and on into LHR.
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6209 times:
Bistro1200, I've seen pictures of SAA's CRJ's in AMS, FRA and/or MUC, so they'll fly them through Europe, which makes the whole thing quite manageable... what I would like to know is how they get the Embraers to South Africa - do they fit tanks and fly them across the South Atlantic, or do they also send them through North America and Europe?
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3726 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5852 times:
The tanks are not really that big and can fit through the 1L door. I've seen them up close and if I remember correctly, they are about 4-5 feet long and 2-1/2 feet wide. You can see in the pictures that the 717 has an access panel inside that allows the tanks to connected to the existing fuel system.
NORTHSEATIGER From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 432 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5717 times:
When the Canadian government baught the cormarant helicopter (Eh101/Merlin) they flew them from westland in england then stopped at aberdeen then flew on stopping at other out of the way places so even a helicopter can cross a pond !!!.
SkydrolBoy From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5515 times:
The company I work for has sent several Convair 580's to New Zealand, we install two 1,000 gallon fuel bladders in the A/C along with some long range navigation equipment. The A/C can then fly from CYLW to Hawaii (18 hrs), from Hawaii to American Samoa (16hrs), And then on to New Zealand(15hrs). All told the trip takes 3 days.