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User currently offlineNWDC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

Name, Motto, Colors, 3 types of Aircraft, 3-us/world Hubs.

name: would be "Crown"
motto: would be, "You Gotta Love It"!
colors" Red, Purple, Gold
aircraft: Airbus A319/20/21
hubs: Denver, St. Louis, Atlanta

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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

Actually my own is operating but i am not the CEO.

BWIA which will be a holding company known as British West Indian Acquisitions.

Two airlines under this holding company:

name of the low cost carrier: Sunjet Airways
colors: yellow blue and possibly white.
aircraft: Boeing 738 and 739
hubs: Trinidad and Barbados
motto: "No worries"
Our jets will be know as the Sunjets

name of the full service airline: BWIA International Airways (reverting back to BWIA's last name)

colors: not decided
aircraft: 777/7e7
hub: Trinidad and Barbados
motto: I may keep Sharing Our Warmth With The World or may go with West Indian Elegance.

Eagles Soar!
User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Well some of you guys already might know this Fake Airline.

Name LandMark Airlines
Motto: Yea we fly there>>?<><?
Queen of the Fleet. 777-300 Other Aircraft. Fokker 100/70 Boeing 737-400 747-400 727-200 ADV 757-300 ATR 42/72 CRJ-200LR Airbus A320.

Hubs top five: MIA,PDX,MCI,JFK,LHR.

"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Well, I'll just repeat what I said yesterday in a similar thread...

Name: Vanguard Airlines
Motto: Treating you like family. Not In-laws.
Primary Hubs: MCI, PHL, LAS
Colors: Dark Blue, Red, Gold (actually dark-ish yellow), White, painted in scheme similar to original Vanguard's "Rainbow Fleet" (look at N136NJ, just replace rainbow stripe with all-yellow stripe)
Aircraft: 717-200/300, 767-300ER
Primary operating areas: Domestic US, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, UK, France, Ireland
Special Restrictions: Would have to coordinate with Kansas City Aviation Department to build gate areas for better connections

Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
User currently offlineEGFFbmi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Name UK International - KI / KUKI), USA - California">UKI
Motto British Excellence.. Almost!
Colours Each National Colour of Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland all in a wavy form a bit like Delta's current livery style only with different colours. The colours of each province..Red, White, Blue and Green. The name UK International would accompany the colours at the top half of the fuselage. The tail would be like the current BA tail only with Red, White, Blue and Green.
Aircraft 346, 7E7, 380, 320, 319, ERJ 145 and Dash 8. 7E7 used mainly on destinations to US, Canada and some short Asia routes. 346 & 380 used on US, Canada, Asia and Oceania routes. 320 & 319 used on European and N.Africa routes. ERJ 145 & 319 used on Domestic & Ireland routes.
Codeshare Partners UA for N.America, RG for S.America, CX for Asia, QF for Oceania, SAA for Africa and LH as a European Partner.


User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Name: Liberty Airways
Motto: Giving you the freedom to fly right
Primary Hubs: SFO, IAH, ATL
Colors: red, white and blue....variation of AA's scheme, but no polished fuselages, I'd paint em
Aircraft: 737, 738, 739, 752, 763, 764, 744, 772LR

Life is better when you surf.
User currently offlineORBITJFK From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

Name: Orbit Airways
Motto: Making the atmosphere the best place on earth.
Primary Hubs: New York JFK, St. Louis STL, San Francisco SFO
Colors: All black aircraft with white dots all over as stars. Planets on the tails similar to the idea that Frontier has with their animals.
Aircraft: 772LR, 763, 762, 752, 738, 73G, 717

User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1524 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Name of Airline: Keralair (named after the state of Kerala in India)
Motto: God's own airline (to go with the description of Kerala as God's own country)
Primary hubs: COK/TRV/CCJ (all in Kerala)
Colors: White and green, logo will be the Sun and a palm tree (or two).
Airplanes: CRJs or EMB145s.
Chairman / MD: Me
Other members of the board: my list of respected users in A.net

rgds//Vimanav Big thumbs up

Sarfaroshi kii tamannaa ab hamaare dil mein hai, Dekhnaa hai zor kitnaa baazu-e-qaatil mein hai
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

Name: Swish Airways
Hubs: BOS (primary trans-atlantic hub), RDU (domestic north-south east coast hub), MCO (primary Latin American hub), IND (domestic east-west hub), PDX (domestic north-south west coast hub), HNL (trans-pacific hub)
Colors: White, with an orange basketball above a red basketball hoop
Aircraft: E-170, for anything within its range, A-319LR for trans-atlantic routes, trans-continental routes, and flights between the west coast and HNL, A-330 for flights from HNL to Asia, and from BOS to parts of Europe outside the A-319's range...
First Class: Internationally, would have 55-inch pitch, domestically 38-inch pitch...IFE would be DirecTV service at every seat, including their entire basic package plus ESPN's Full Court Package with every NBA and NCAA Basketball game televised under their package...meals on all flights over one hour long...name of first class would vary based on where the aircraft is based...BOS-based aircraft would have Celtic Class, RDU-based aircraft would have Bobcat Class, MCO-based aircraft would have Magic Class, IND-based aircraft would have Pacer Class, PDX-based aircraft would have Trailblazer Class, and HNL-based aircraft would have Aloha Class...
Coach: 34-inch pitch throughout on all aircraft, IFE would be same as first class...meals for sale on all flights over one hour long...
Three-Point Miles Program: No elite status, no upgrades of any kind, frequent flier miles can be used only for flights in coach, no capacity controls on free tickets...
Other policies: Will overbook flights, because god knows that there are passengers who book flights purposely so that they can get bumped, any passenger bumped gets a free ticket anywhere Swish Airways flies on A-319 or E-170 aircraft...no codesharing or alliances of any kind...assigned seating, however, passengers must check in AT THE GATE between 60 and 30 minutes before flight (or within 15 minutes of connecting flight arriving at gate) in order to keep their seat...

Likelyhood of success: Oh, wait, we were supposed to answer that question? Likely won't ever sell a ticket... Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Burma's constitutional referendum options: A. Yes, B. Go to Insein Prison!
User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3890 times:

NAME-Air Paradise PA
COLOR-Yellow, White, and Blue
FLEET- MD-11. MD-80, A-330-200, A340-600, B-7E7, B-777-300ER
EXPRESS FLEET- Embraer 190, CRJ-700
PRICESssss- Never above $500
LAYOUT ON THE LONG HAUL PLANES- 28 ecommy, 142 First Class, and the rest is buesnisse class.

No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3835 times:

What market?
What competition?
What are the prices?

Your question is way too vague for me to answer.

Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3828 times:

InnoccuousFox-Brief Question...if you plugged each of the six major airlines into Airline Traffic Manager, and their routes and everything included, as they stood today, which airline would be the most profitable (or least unprofitable), and which would be the least profitable (or most unprofitable)?

Burma's constitutional referendum options: A. Yes, B. Go to Insein Prison!
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12340 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3822 times:

Name of Airline: Family Air
Colours: Red(love and caring) and yellow(happinies)
Aircraft: 737-700(less demand routes for Domestic), 738(domestic), 739(short aul International and high demand Domestic flights), 7E7, Less demand Long haul and Medium haul routes. 777-200ER(Long haul routes), 777-200LR(Longer haul routes). Regional aircraft CRJ200, CRJ700 and CRJ900 (as non aviation fans think that jets are safer then Turbo-prop aircraft. All 737s for Domestic flights will have 4 business class seats and Regional Jets will have 2 Business Class seats with more then generous leg room. Family Class (Economy) will have 5 inches more legroom then the competiting airlines.
Main Domestic Hub: WLG as it is in the middle of New Zealand.
Tourist routes to Rotorua and Queenstown will have 737s flying them.
Moto: Welcome to our family
International flights will have between 8-12 business class flights depending on the aircraft with no middle row seats. All International aircraft in Business Class will have no middle seat. International Family Class (economy) will have 2-3-2 seats on all wide body International aircraft and 3-3 seating on all narrow body International aircraft. All International aircraft will have more then generous seat pitch and leg room (to help combat DVT). All passengers will be treated like VIPs.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3789 times:

Name: Pioneer Jetlines

Color: Dark red, dark gray

Motto: The Pioneer Out West and Around the Wprld

Fleet: MD-80, 737-800, 757-200, 767-400

Hubs: LAS for intra-west travel, and DCA for intra-east travel, and Columbus for international travel.

First Class (Domestic): 36 inches of pitch, cold meals on flights under 2 hours, hot meals on flights over 2 hours and 1 minute. Drop down monitors.
Coach (Domestic): 31 inches of pitch, cold meals on flights over 2 hours. Drop down monitors.

Diplomat Class (F/C international): 51-inches of pitch, hot meals, PTV's with On-Demand screening. Sleeper seats. 2x2 seating.
Marvel Class (Business): 43-inches of pitch, hot meals, PTV's with On-Demand screening. 2x1x2 seating.
Standard Class: 33-inches of pitch, hot meals, PTV's. 2x2x2

DimploMiles: FFQ program. Upgrades to domestic first and Marvel Class only. Elite program: Renowed Member. Free access to Diplomat Lounges.


User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3777 times:

"...if you plugged each of the six major airlines into Airline Traffic Manager, and their routes and everything included, as they stood today, which airline would be the most profitable (or least unprofitable), and which would be the least profitable (or most unprofitable)?"

That's a good question - but the answer is a bit problematic for a number of reasons:

1) The accuracy of the outcome is directly based on the accuracy of the simulation. While we are going to great pains to as much as we can in great detail, there are things we are either leaving out intentionally or could never possibly exactly. Therefore, the outcome would be flawed by the inclusion of many, many very small, but inexact variables.

2) When you ask for "profitable", you are expressing an implied "over time" in there. "Over time" involves many scenarios and situations that arise. We have no idea of what those may be in the future and we only have one sample of data of how a particular reaction worked after a particular scenario. We can only speculate as to what would have been different had another decision been made to that stimulus. Therefore, the "profitability (over time)" of an airline is directly tied to management decisions to those very scenarios, situations and stimuli. Certainly, you can understand that it would be impossible to simulate any given CEO's distinct mindset when facing these obstacles.

3) In both of the above, there is a necessary interconnectedness to the factors. If something in 1) or 2) changes ever so slightly, it may or may not cause a ripple effect throughout all the other factors and decisions. The possibility tree is enormous. Without a basis for control of that tree, each running of the simulation would be completely different.

To give you a little quote... at least years Game Developer's Conference in San Jose, I was honored to have offered up a question to Will Wright (The various "Sim" titles), Peter Moleyneux (Lionhead Studios - e.g. "Black & White") and the man who was the original designer of the "Grand Theft Auto" titles. They are all very much into the same simulation that I use - that of autonomous agents doing their own thing in responding intelligently to the world around them. I asked them how they go about designing and testing these worlds when the decision tree is so completely vast and unpredictable. After a brief disucussion of their various approaches, Peter (in his fantastic British accent) said something to the effect of "It is quite horrifying really to see this world that you have created moving along and knowing that at any moment it may collapse upon itself completely!" This is the result of what I was discussing above.

Running an airline is, necessarily, one of the most complex and unpredictable jobs in existence. We are only recreating a portion of that world for the game and it is still complex. (At some point you have to draw a line between fun and reality - a simple rule of game design.) Even with my stacks of reference books, I could not completely design to accommodate every contingency. A few years ago, who would have thought to include a scenario where every aircraft in the US was grounded... OUT OF POSITION... for days? And when they were allowed to return to normalcy, found out that a good chunk of their clientele were now afraid to fly? Certainly, that is an extreme example... but the decisions that were made by the various executive staves in airlines around the world lost or saved billions of dollars. Airlines went out of business as a result... others actually grew despite the chaos. Who would have known?

The simple answer is, despite the fact that my simulation is on track to be far more detailed than any airline game in existence... it is not a reasonable indicator of success or failure of the real world counterpart. After all, it only knows as much as I teach it.

When the sim is done, will I really be tempted to run it out to see who wins and who loses? Damn right I will! But you know what? The results of those tests will not tell me whether United, American, AirTran or Southwest is better or worse... it WILL tell me how good I have written the simulation. If Southwest loses ground and US Air comes out on top? Time to go back and teak the sim.

A fantastic question, though SHU... thanks!

Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlineIlikeYYC From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 days ago) and read 3756 times:

Name: Warrior Airlines
Motto: "We don't die, we multiply!"
Colors: White, Red and Gold on Black
Aircraft: CRJ 200, Boeing 737-700, and Boeing 7E7 (808?)
Hubs: PDX, MCI and CMH

Fly mostly within North America, a few flights to Asia and a few to Europe.

Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Name: MACH Airways

Motto: "We won't burn your @ss"

Colors: Dark red fuselage and tail with yellow and orange flames down the length of the whole frame.

Aircraft types: 737-700 with winglets, 757-200s and 777-200ERs


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User currently offlineAndrewAir From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 361 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3667 times:

Name: AMc Airlines
Motto: "Were your airline."
Colors: White, Blue, Yellow, Red
Aircraft: EMB145LR, Boeing 737-700 & 737-8 w/winglets, 7E7, 772LR, 773ER, 747-400ER
Primary Hubs: SFO, JFK, LHR, HKG, NRT, LAX, CDG


User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Landmark Market is everything. We will have vacation plans to buiseness plans. Mid rage Prices a AA Jet Blue mix. Biggest competion would be AA but we would become partners so then comes The rest of the Majors and Jet Blue.

"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

Name : Air Singapura

Motto : Safety and comfort comes first for our passengers .

Colours: Red and white cheatline with a merlion logo covered with red .

3 types of a/c : A319/320/321 , A330-200/300 and B777-200/300

Hubs : Singapore

Airliners is the wings of my life.
User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

America's Airways

"The Way Flying Should Be at the Prices You Want to Pay"

Red, White and Blue

*** only factory-new widebodies

on order: B7E7 (will be the launch consumer!)

Class of Service:
TrueFirst - 100" pitch, real beds in private suites w/PlasmaTVs!
Executivue (Business) - 80" pitch, fully reclining seats w/tiny PlasmaTVs!
Premium (Economy) - 40" pitch, wider seats with footrests & LCD PTVs!
***there will be extra-wide seats in Premium for overweight people. Since we're ADA compliant, these seats will cost the same as standard ones.

The Pittsbrugh Ultra SuperDooper Intercontinental Hub - WorldWide service from the World's bestest airport!

New York City / LaGuardia - mostly domestic, Europe, Latin America, South America & The Caribbean, but also Asia

Atlanta - *** codeshare partner's hub ***

West Palm Beach - inter-Florida, primary Carribbean

New Orleans - secondary domestic & Latin America; also Europe

Houston - domestic, primary Latin/South America

Chicago / Midway -- *** codeshare partner's hub ***

Colorado Springs -- primary east-west

San Jose, CA -- primary transpacific

Los Angeles -- secondary pacific

Alliance Partners:
AirTran Airways, ATA
Alliance Name: "The LCC Alliance"

User currently offlineToxtethogrady From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Name: Subsidy Air
Strategy: Will fly to hub airport centrally located in the US from any city willing to provide a minumum seat guarantee. For example - we'll fly to Daytona Beach, Florida, if they're really serious about guaranteeing the purchase of a million dollars worth of tickets every year. Hub airport to be chosen on the basis of a competition to be advertised to the trade press nationally. We will work with the Chambers of Commerce in any cities that are desparate to attract or replace a hub carrier.
Motto: Show us the money!
Colors - long green
Aircraft - whatever United has parked in the Mojave

User currently offlineHappy-flier From Canada, joined Dec 1999, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

Oh boy.

I think I'd want to operate a single all-passenger DC-8-72 and do trans-polar charters. Fly to Greenland and Iceland and all those (literally and figuratively) cool places. Dream of a lifetime!

May the wind be always at your back . . . except during takeoff & landing.
User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

AIRCRAFT- 777-200/300 ER, 737-700, MD-10/11, 767-(?)NOT TOO SURE & GULFSTREAM V (for a city hopper)
HUBS-SFO&LAX(sfo to Asia, Hawaii etc. and to NYC, lax to west Europe and Canada)JFK&HKG(jfk for lax flights and hkg for sfo flights)

"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineAsianguy767 From Singapore, joined Oct 2003, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3539 times:

Name: Spirit Wings

Motto: we always have a smile for you!

Colours: Blue, Purple n Scarlett

Aircraft: A330-300, B747-400ER, B757


25 InnocuousFox : It would be interesting to see what changed if we modified the criteria to be "and this actually has to work!"
26 Post contains links and images Aloha717200 : If I had an airline, it'd be a resurrection of a defunct carrier for sure. I can't really decide whether I'd bring PSA, Western, Eastern, Pan Am, or A
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