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Airlines Using SARS, 9/11 Too Much Of An Excuse?  
User currently offlineMartinairYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 1209 posts, RR: 7
Posted (11 years 12 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Airlines are using SARS and 9/11 as excuses way too much to raise prices and all sorts of fees. This is total bull$hit and should be stopped by the governments of Canada and USA. Befor e9/11 you sould go from Toronto to New York for the weekend for no more that $100 Canadian Dollars RT/PP.
Now it'll be at least double.

Once again, this should be stopped and if the governments don't do anything, the public certainly should. There is not enough media coverage on this and people just don't get the point


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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (11 years 12 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Befor e9/11 you sould go from Toronto to New York for the weekend for no more that $100 Canadian Dollars RT/PP. ..Now it'll be at least double.
****

We'll, look at it this way. There are roughly 16% less passengers flying in comparision to pre 9.11. Ticket prices are now generally considerably lower than they were pre 9.11 (although this is affected by demand and routings).

While some of the airlines were in trouble pre 9.11, many were doing just fine thank you very much, and you just cannot swallow a 16% drop in passengers overnight, hence British Airways, Lufthansa, Air France, United, US, AA, Delta, Alitalia, Continental, Northwest and list goes on, all started losing plenty of money. Sure some of the above were already losing it hand over fist, but not most of them.

While you may be right about your route, the stats do not lie, prices are lower, and less people are flying, this is fact.

Jeremy

[Edited 2003-12-22 19:48:01]

User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

And don't forget that your ticket includes the airports fees and the taxes.
And both have increased to pay for the people and the equipment needed for the additional security.
Airlines have no influence on this cost. But it is a big part of what you pay
Teva



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User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

If airlines could raise fees that easily, they would do so without relying on SARS or 9/11. If anything, those two events reduced air travel, which means more system overcapacity and lower fares.

I would have to say that the results of SARS and 9/11 are the opposite of what you say.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Yes and no.

First of all, everyone must realize that as a whole, airlines cannot survive without business travel. The leisure market is simply too low-yield to support a major route structure.

With that as a foundation, I think that after 9/11 and the SARS outbreak, many businesses realized they were (1) using air travel more than necessary, and (2) paying too much for air tickets, period. This is the real reason why airlines are struggling today. Whether that can be blamed on 9/11 or SARS is debatable, but it is an interesting discussion.



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Heck yes....

Delta was STILL using the 9/11 fallout reasons as justification to keep furghlowing Delta pilots...pretty sad eh?

I think the airlines keep clinging to the reasons like that...especially their CEO's.  Yeah sure

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 hour ago) and read 2054 times:

Ummm, major airlines had very HIGH cost structures long before 9/11....While Locos have always kept things simple and thus have shown consistent profits.

The major airlines still need to get the wakeup picture and change their models. Point to point flying is clearly where money can be consistenly made, hubs need to be debanked massively....there are tons of stuff the majors could do.


User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Expect the airfares to climb more and more from here on out! The end in the increases is nowhere in sight!


LHR001


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12339 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
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Air NZs cheapest fare frm AKL to LAX $1341.80 (New Zealand dollars) one way (Economy Class). Business Class is $5072.80 (New Zealand dollars) one way and First Class is $7756.80 (New Zealand dollars) one way. Considering that these fares are alot cheaper then what they were 3 years ago, Air NZ have not raised their fares to the USA but have done the opposite Smile

User currently offlineFunFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

I agree with everyone but, I think that the government should pay for the extra security. Because that is there job to protect its people.


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