Anxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3508 times:
What do you think about the new A340-500? People is agree to make a 16 hours or more non-stop journey? And for what airlines can be the ideal plane? What eligible routes? I understand this plane can reach Europe from Perth (West Australia) is this true?
LHR340 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 877 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3395 times:
I love anything A340 so I love the A345. The aircraft have already gone to Emirates & soon Singapore Airlines. EK Operate it from Dubai to Sydney (non-stop!) and SQ will operate them from Singapore to Los Angeles, which is about 17hours+ non-stop in Feb '04. The world is becoming a smaller place!
LHR340
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7177 posts, RR: 45 Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3361 times:
If you go to http://a345leadership.singaporeair.com you can see all about the new SIN-LAX route. I don't know how EK is marketing its 345 flights, but Singapore has outfitted its 345 with only two classes: Raffles, which is their name for First Class, and executiveconomy or something like that, which is a hybrid between Coach and Business Class. The executiveconomy seats look comfortable and have PTV's, video games, jacks for laptops and a nice reclining angle; the layout of the plane allows for walking around, etc.; and there are some spaces for "socializing" that remind me of AF's "coins de fumeurs" when smoking was still allowed on board AF's transatlantic flights. Last year I flew to Singapore from LAX with CX via Hong Kong. If I had to go to Singapore again, I would definitely fly Singapore's 345. Although CX is a very good airline, I think that Singapore's executiveconomy is worth the premium over the regular coach fare on CX. Besides, no need to stop and change plans. I think they will be successful.
Anxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3204 times:
LHR340:I invite you to make a journey with me to South America in IB A343 or A346...
Eddie...ya he visto la web de SQ,está muy bien hecha
For any New zelander..... Do you imaginate a Air New Zeland's A345??? For example,for to "tie" AKL with JFK non-stop? Or maybe QF for PER-FRA?
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 50 Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3074 times:
Anxebla - I would say the chances of Air NZ ordering the A340-500 (or -600) would be quite decent. Whether AKL-JFK would work, who knows? Qantas does not apparently have the best loads through to JFK on its SYD-LAX-JFK services.
V/F
"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7696 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2923 times:
VirginFlyer,
I don't think NZ wants the A340-500, even though it could fly AKL-JFK non-stop most of the year. They want more carrying capacity, and that means either the 777-300ER or the A340-600HGW. Besides, there is quite a lot of O & D traffic between AKL and LAX, so the extreme range of the A345 is not really needed.
Motorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2760 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2854 times:
I've always been of the opinion that an array of A340 craft would suit NZ (Air New Zealand) with their existing structure and help them in growing new routes etc.
One strong possibility for this would be a daily MEL-AKL-JFK (or EWR) route. Why not SYD-AKL-JFK I hear you say? Well QF's only focus is on its SYD (international) hub and they daily SYD-LAX-JFK (no cabotage rights between LAX-JFK). This would be a strong reason for the A345 for NZ. They'd need three.
They'd need A346's to take over from the second daily to LAX from the retiring 744's. Also for KIX, SIN as well as the new AKL-HKG-LHR run.
A343X's would be perfect for new routes like AKL-MEL-JNB, MEL-AKL-EZE-GIG or MEL-AKL-SCL-GIG and AKL-PVG.
Existing 763 routes can be grown with A332's or made more frequent with the A320 family.
Oversubscribed 744 routes can be grown or maintained with a small fleet of A380's (AKL-LAX-LHR & AKL-NRT).
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5020 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2700 times:
They'd need A346's to take over from the second daily to LAX from the retiring 744's.
Whats this, those 744's aren't going anywhere for a few years yet!
I agree though that the A340 series would suit NZ with 346's doing the main high capacity long haul routes.
AKL-NRT
AKL-LAX-LHR
AKL-HKG-LHR (hopefully)
While the 343 can do longer thinner routes and over water aswell and open new routes.
AKL-SIN
AKL-KIX
AKL-PER
AKL-RIO
One strong possibility for this would be a daily MEL-AKL-JFK (or EWR) route. Why not SYD-AKL-JFK I hear you say? Well QF's only focus is on its SYD (international) hub and they daily SYD-LAX-JFK (no cabotage rights between LAX-JFK). This would be a strong reason for the A345 for NZ. They'd need three.
MEL and SYD to JFK via AKL is easy I mean they are both 1 stop, and they can arrive in AKL at about the same time to connect. In fact thats a good reason for Pax to go NZ via AKL rather than QF via LAX!
But yes you can throw in a couple of 345's aswell.
QF only fly to JFK 3x weekly now.
It will be interesting to see if NZ go for a few A380's down the line at all.
Anxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2667 times:
The route SYD-AKL-JFK I think it is very profitable and the perfect aircraft for this journey,is (of course) the A340-500.
For other bussines,NZ could to stop the route LAX-LHR and to make the finish at JFK (JFK isn't far away to Europe...just 6/7 hours,depends the winds).If NZ continues in Star Alliance could be a good idea the code share with LH or Virgin Atlantic,or in the future NZ changes to Oneword,make code-share with BA for travelling to UK or even IB for Madrid. (Good idea,MAD-JFK-AKL)
Maybe,the code-share for NZ can be a save. Sorry for my eng. is not very good
Dennys From France, joined May 2001, 792 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2543 times:
I like your Suggestions about the possible routes opted by A345 . I suggest other ones , even if the carrier is far away to get the aircraft !
VARIG : SAO - TYO NONSTOP
AEROLINAS : BUE - SYD NONSTOP
SAA : JNB - LAX , JNB - CHI NON STOP (ANY TIME OF THE YEAR)
DLH : FRA - HNL
VIRGIN : LON - HNL
SAUDIA : JED - LAX , JED - CHI , JED - SAO . ALL NON STOP .
IRAN AIR : THR - YVR , THR - LAX ( when Diplomacy Relations are better )
AIR INDIA : DEL - NYC , DEL - YYZ , BOM - CHI .
CHINA EASTERN : PEK - CHI , PEK - NYC
CATHAY : HKG - NYC ( TWICE A DAY NON STOP !!! GREAT !!! )
QANTAS : SYD - NYC ( " THE KANGUROO NYC EXPRESS " )
MAS : KUL - NYC , KUL - LAX ( ALREADY STUDIED BY THE AIRLINE )
NORTHWEST ORIENT : MSP-BKK , MSP - SIN ( just exchange some boring 333s into A345s orders )
rumours mid -2003 :
AIR TAHITI asking EADS for an IGW A345 to fly PAR - PTT NON STOP !!!
.... That is all for today !
happy new year 2004 .
I am an A342 and A345 big fan ! should we get a big A345 order in 2004, that wud be wonderfull !
Spark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
I'm curious how Vietnam Airlines is going to get to SFO when they start serving it. SGN to SFO would be a a possible 345 route. I don't expect BKK- West coast routes anytime soon.
I keep waiting for someone to take up the cause for SFO/LAX-India routes, which I think would do well.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2465 times:
Welcome to Fantasy Island. While many of the suggested A345 flights sound great and would look amazng on a routemap, they are not happeneing anytime soon.
1. Almost all service from Australia/New Zealand to the USA will be continue to go via LAX, why? its effecient and both QF and NZ have domestic US partners. The QF extension to JFK (and ORD coming soon?) is, from my understanding, has to do with freight income. For years, AA and QF were talking about an AA), New Zealand">AKL or SYD to DFW flight, but that still has not happened.
2. Most of the other flights mentioned just do not make sense on an economic basis, LHR-HNL is all wrong from a yeild point of view (even if there was demand), NW will continue to route SIN and BKK bound pax via their Tokyo hub because they make lots of money doing this, while another try at a HKG-NYC nonstop by Cathay is possible it will be once a day at most (CO has struggled with its HKG-EWR flight and still has not gotten back to daily frequency....and CO is determined to keep this route alive....UA walked away from the route and CX has announced it twice and never flew it nonstop), the Aust/NZ to South America market is a difficult one again with yeild problems (did QF drop BA-Sydney?) and finally unless and until a version of the A345 is developed that can fly from LHR to SYD nonstop without restrictions year round round trip, the type will not make a big impact on the Kangaroo route....the ability to get to Perth rom Europe nonstop is not interesting, not
enough traffic or yeild, its all about the London-Sydney/Melbourne connection.
SQ will use the type to connect SIN with the USA - first LAX and NYC, maybe more cities in the future if passengers accept 18 hour nonstop flights and will pay the premium for executive economy, look for Thai to offer similiar services out of BKK and possibly MH also doing the same out of KUL. Look for nonstop services between US cities and the Gulf and the Gulf and Australia with Emeriates and others, the US-India market has big potential but its curious that Air India recently announced an A340 order and did not go with the A345, and a PPT-CDG nonstop would be a great idea, especially with the US becoming a more difficult transit stop due to terror problems. Its going to be wait and see, airlines still have to determine if passengers will accept 18 hour flights, are willing to pay a premium for the service (SQ's exec economy will be the test for this), and how the aircraft preforms in revenue service.
Anxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2109 times:
Dutchjet:Yes,i agree with you;18 hours can be too much for a non-stop flight...and for this reason,the A-345's sales can be limited to a few airlines or to be a smaller alternative to his "brother",A-346.For me,the ideals customers for the A-345 are: (in addition to SQ,EK,AC,TG)
-NZ:New Zealand is so far away,in a remote corner of the world ...ideal for A-345 routes.
-QF:another potential candidate.
-BA:the world's favourite airline can to use this tireless aircraft for reach Perth, West Australia, from LHR.
-MH:for to fly to US non-stop and even EZE from Kuala Lumpur (if the market can allow it)
-SA:ideal for JNB-SA - Illinois">ORD or for Japaneses airports
Anyway,like Dutchjet say:"Airlines still have to determinate if passengers will accept 18 hour flights".This question is not a trivial question...for me,the maximum than i can to bear is a 13'5 hour flight MAD-SCL...for a longer journey i prefer to make one stopover.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2088 times:
PPT-SYD
This will be a 343.
SGN-SFO with a GE90-94B 772ER will be a big stretch along that southerly route, yes.
Concord977 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1261 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2071 times:
In the current issue of Airways Magazine, the A345 flown by Singapore from LAX to SIN is featured in an advertisement . . .
For $1,380 (US) you can fly both directions non-stop, 9,134 statute miles and get three nights in the Marina Mandarin Hotel.
Economy seats have 37" pitch, and 20" width in a 2-3-2 arrangement. There is a self-service snack counter and a stand-up passenger lounge.
Each seat has a screen with 200 channels, for entertainment.
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Gladly Anxebla - I think QF should get the A345 so it can fly directly to LHR & the rest of Europe.
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...ideal for A-345 routes.
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