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User currently offlineLunchbox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 30 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

The only nonstops from the United States to the middle eastern region on a U.S.-based airline that I am aware of are CO's flights to Dubai and Tel Aviv from EWR. Are there others? And is it true that a couple U.S.-carriers are interested in initiating operations to Baghdad?

Just curious. Any help would be appreciated.

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User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

I would like to know what CO flights go to Dubai or anywhere near it, let alone nonstop. Maybe you are refering to Malaysian Airlines flight from EWR-DXB. Emirates is set to start JFK-DXB this year with the A345's.....Kuwait Airways has been doing JFK-KWI for sometime now.Saudi also flies nonstop to Jidda from the eastcoast....Delta airlines flew to Dubai for a short time via Cairo.Further west,Royal Jordanian does JFK-AMM

User currently offlineLunchbox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

KHI747-
Maybe I'm mistaken by thinking CO serves Dubai.

Thanks for the help.

-M


User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

Don't forget Egyptair's JFK-Cairo flights.


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User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2220 times:

To my knowledge there are NO US-based airlines serving Mideast countries other than Israel, except as a codeshare with a non-US airline. TWA used to serve Cairo and Riyadh, and Delta supposedly briefly served Cairo and Dubai, but both of these services are long gone. As a practical matter, I think it will be along time before you see this type of service again, as European and even Mideast carriers offer ample service direct or connecting through a European hub. Israel is of course a special situation as it receives alot of money from the US and many Americans are also Israeli citizens.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Continental's service to Tel Aviv is the only US carrier service to the Middle East. Before 9.11, TWA flew to Cairo and Riyadah, and Delta flew to Cairo, Dubai, and Tel Aviv. Between the US and the Middle East, the following carriers provide service:

Continental Airlines to Tel Aviv (from Newark).

Egyptair to New York City/JFK.

El Al Israel Airlines to Chicago/O'Hare, Los Angeles, Miami, New York City/JFK,
and Newark.

Malaysian Airlines to Newark (to/from Dubai en route to Kuala Lumpor).

Royal Jordanian to Chicago/O'Hare, Detroit, and New York City/JFK.

Saudi Arabian Airlines to New York City/JFK and Washington/Dulles.

I might be leaving something out, but I think the list is complete.



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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

EK is said to start DXB-JFK and DXB-SFO nonstops in 2004

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2064 times:

Pigs are also said to fly... which right now, looks moer likely to happen than any EK nonstops to the USA

User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2039 times:

Pigs are neither halal nor kosher! Actually, I predict that EK will give it a shot and if the traffic's not there, will quickly drop it.

User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2029 times:

Didn't EK flt to IAH for a bit with AB340? Also, wouldnt the MH flight be quicker to KUL if it flew the polar route? Why do they transit DXB? Also, are they exercising cabotage on the route, or is DXB strictly for techops?
Thanks.



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User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2023 times:

AK- It was GF (Gulf Air) and they served both IAH and JFK as recently as 1997 I believe. I understand they will be coming back to JFK as they have apparently won a UN contract to operate between JFK, GVA, and BAH.

User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2011 times:

Hey River...thanks...did the GF flight go IAH/JFK/BAH? IAH didnt last long, from what I remember now.


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User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2012 times:

AK- I don't know if it was the same flight or two different ones, but I do know that the JFK-BAH flight was originally supposed to be nonstop but eventually went via LCA, not sure if it was for fuel or what. The new service will be via GVA. I miss the GF "I Dream of Jeannie" girls here...

User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1996 times:

LCA as in Larnaca, Cyprus?


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User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1973 times:

RiverVisualNYC:

Israel is of course a special situation as it receives alot of money from the US and many Americans are also Israeli citizens.

Not to mention the fact that it is one whale of a busy market. Lots and lots of people traveling between Tel Aviv and the US.


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1979 times:

Continental does not fly to Dubai. It code shares with Emirates, from EWR via LGW (EWR/IAH-LGW is CO, LGW-DHX is EK).

The nonstop flights from the USA to the Middle East are:

Continental (EWR-TLV)
EL AL (EWR, JFK and LAX to TLV)
Egyptair (JFK-CAI)

Saudi Arabian Airlines also flies to JFK and IAD.

Royal Jordanian does not operate nonstop service to Amman. All flights are operated via AMS or SNN (from JFK and ORD).

In the past, these airlines flew nonstop to the Middle East:

TWA (JFK-TLV, JFK to Kuwait City, JFK to CAI, then on to Riyadh)
Delta (JFK to DHX and JFK to TLV)

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6236 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1959 times:

Yes MH has fifth freedom rights on the EWR-DXB sector .
Chepos



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1935 times:

ContinentalEWR:
RJ does fly nonstop from AMM-JFK, using the A340.



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User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1935 times:

Royal Jordanian does operate nonstop to Amman, which they started after aquiring A340's.

User currently offlineLunchbox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1930 times:

Thanks for the info!

I recently read somewhere that a few U.S.carriers were interested in initiating operations to Baghdad. Any truth to this? (For example: NW direct from DTW, large Iraqi population in the suburbs)


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6236 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1920 times:

Royal Jordanian operate flight 262 nonstop from JFK to AMM and flight 261 from AMM to JFK nonstop with the A340-200. Unless this has been recently changed
Chepos



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User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 672 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Ok, CAI is not located in the middle east(asia), but in Africa. There is a small part of Egypt that is part of the middle east (asia) which is the Sinai peninsula.

Therefore all of those JFK-CAI flights do not count!

Rgs.

Neo


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6200 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

I can not release my source, but EK will be operating Dubai-New York(JFK) in 2004. I know you will all take this with a grain of salt till its announced, but for those who'd like to believe me, Its happening! Seen the schedule!
ASSFO



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33289 posts, RR: 71
Reply 23, posted (11 years 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

The nonstop flights from the USA to the Middle East are:

EL AL (EWR, JFK and LAX to TLV)


Only EWR and JFK are non-stop. LAX is via YYZ. El Al has also flown to MIA and ORD since September, both via EWR, though MIA may be non-stop this summer.



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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Kuwait Airways flights to both New York/JFK and Chicago are with 1 stoop each.

For me Turkey is a middle eatsern country so I will include Turkish Airlines here who fly nonstop Istanbul-New York/JFK, and Chicago.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 25, posted (11 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Arimale:
KU operate KWI-JFK nonstop, though on only 2 of 5 weekly flights. (rest are VIA LHR)



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