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QF A333 Fleet Plans  
User currently offlineAq737 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

I just saw the picture of the QF A330-300 interior Y section. They are the slimline seats, but without PTVs. Aren't the 330-300s being fitted with PTVs?

Aq737

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User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 898 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Apparently the first 3 have/will be delivered in a domestic configuration and will be refitted when it is time to go on the international runs.
RL


User currently offlineQANTASpower From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 516 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4854 times:

All the A333's will be fitted withy PTV's and "Skybeds' in Business class. Apparently the remaining 6 A333's will come with these installed.

The 4 x A332's and the existing A333's will be converted to International config over the next 6 months.

By June all A330's will operate internationally only.



User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

Qantaspower :


International flights , that includes regional flights like Perth-Singapore ?


Charles



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12144 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4777 times:
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QF is flying the A330 to New Zealand. The aircraft would most likly be the A332 as it has about the same amount of seats as the 763Er that flys the CHC and AKL. The A330 will sometimes fly into WLG Smile/happy/getting dizzy when there is demand of course Smile

User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3203 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4664 times:



Well I sincerely hope it will venture into WLG, but strongly doubt it.

Would love to see the occasional widebody, but it's all about frequency and with impending (increased) competition from PacificBlue (aka Virgin), there is even less likelihood of seeing even the vapour trail of an A330 of any QF variety.

MH




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User currently offlineAZMD80 From Italy, joined Nov 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4637 times:

I fligth last Years from Singapore to perth on a 763 300Er: no PVT and interior are quite old. I think tha new planes like 330 in route that doesn't need a 744 is a really a good task for quantas

User currently offlineQANTASpower From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 516 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4582 times:

Charles,

Yes the A333's will be used on the Asian regional routes. The timetable has them first going on the Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Perth to Hong Kong flights. This includes new non stop flights from Perth to Hong Kong.

They will then go on the other routes like Singapore when 744's are not required and to places like Manila etc. Singapore however will mainly see 744's.

Not sure where the reconfigured A332's will go as they will not have skybed like the A333's. They will have PTV's though.

All 763's will be withdrawn from international QF routes. Only 744's, 743's, A333's and A332's will fly internationally.

This will then bring about consistency to the international product.

Regards



[Edited 2003-12-24 12:21:56]

User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4444 times:

Although the A332's will operate on the Tasman Run they will also be interlined with Jet Connect operated 733's as well however expect the 733's where operated to be confined to WLG and CHC services, most of the A332's would operate on their flagship AKL services. I just hope then the 733's get refurbed!!

The third A333 should be delivered any day now, wonder what they are naming her. I am scheduled to be on the A333 for PER to SYD on 12th Feb, but a 738 on the way there, quite a contrast in size.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5329 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

The QF 332 has some 70 seats more than the 763 at the moment, not sure though if they will have less seats when they are reconfigured.

The 333's may do the odd Trans Tasman route but generally it will be the 332's, although I heard some Tasman routes may retain the 763. I would expect the 332's to do the SYD-CHC run as well as the AKL runs but BNE/MEL-CHC will likely stay as 733's operated by Jet Connect for now.

Merry Christmas Everyone.


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

Lucky you, Aussie747! Nothing like a nice cross-country flight on an A330.

"By June all A330's will operate internationally only." So I guess we'll still be seeing a lot of the 767s. Do you think that later, Qantas might decide to order more A330s to use domestically as 767 replacements?

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

Just curious if Qantas would make a surprise with the next A333 to be delivered in a Special Color Scheme.....Hmm, B744ER VH-OEJ 'Wunala Dreaming' & B738 VH-VXB 'Yananyi Dreaming' & B743 VH-EBU 'Nalanji Dreaming' in need of a new paint job.....

You never know Qantas might just surprise us all!



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12144 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4361 times:
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Do you think that later, Qantas might decide to order more A330s to use domestically as 767 replacements?

Didn't QF have problems with the A332 fly the Domestic routes because the plane was to heavy for some of the routes. Also the plane took longer then planned to depart airports


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4327 times:

Qantas experienced problems with A330's when it came turn-around time. The A330 aircraft operate Cityflyer flights which in (most cases) turn-around in 30 minutes!

Qantas has decided to replace the aircraft with the B763ER which are currently flying International flights.

Makes perfect sense to me!



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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4276 times:

I wonder what specifically is causing the problems with turnaround times. Maybe it's just the fact that it's a new a/c type and the ground crew and equipment are not used to it. After all, these are the first Airbuses Qantas has operated for a long time. As EK423 said, It does make sense to keep an all Boeing fleet at home for commonality, and use the 'Buses internationally.

So will the "CityFlyer" titles be removed from the aircraft?

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

It's too bad that they're moving the A330s to the international routes only. Do you think the 767s will be replaced though, and with what? It's about time, I think...

qantasA332


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5329 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

I would think that the 7E7 would be a good candadate to replace the 763 from 2008 on by which time the oldest 763's will be close to 20 years old.

Thats my opinion.  Smile


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

ZK-NBT,

I think you could definitely count QF for the 7E7, already some of their 763's are nearly 14 years old. Especially if Boeing do a short range derivative, then I guess you run into the fact that this would be a 300pax plane , and would subsequently run into problems of trying to turn the plane around at quick intervals, just as it currently does with the A332/A333's


User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

I'm not sure QF is going to go for the 7E7 -- they need a nearer-term 763 replacement, I think. I would have thought the 330s would do the trick, but apparently not...
Having said that, what else would they consider to replace them? A320-family a/c, maybe?

qantasA332


User currently offlineJsmith From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

Aussie747 - I don't think you can 'count' Qantas for the 7E7. I think it it far too early to speculate.

For example, Qantas were invited along with some of the world's other major airlines to consult with Boeing on the formation and design of the 777 and out of that group of airlines, guess who was the only airline that never ended up ordering any 777s?


User currently offline3green From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

Has anybody here flown on them, do they feel powerful on takeoff, climb, etc? Do the engines sound good from inside?

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

The A330 has a huge power/weight ratio and sounds beautiful fom the inside.

Not that that matters from an airlines' perspective.

N


User currently offlineQantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

3green: I've been on a 300. They're incredibly quiet on the inside, and overall they're just so comfortable and great! I love 'em.

qantasA332


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4916 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

ZK-NBT
I would think that the 7E7 would be a good candidate to replace the 763 from 2008 on by which time the oldest 763's will be close to 20 years old.

that's my opinion.

I agree totally with the B763's being replaced in the future. Qantas operates 14 763's which have been leased from Oneworld partner British Airways & still operate in the BA interior. I'm sure Qantas would have a replacement on there mind.





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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12144 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3530 times:
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I'm not sure QF is going to go for the 7E7 -- they need a nearer-term 763 replacement, I think. I would have thought the 330s would do the trick, but apparently not...
Having said that, what else would they consider to replace them? A320-family a/c, maybe?


Since Jetstar(LCC) will be operating an all A320 fleet by 2005, If QF replace their 763s with the A320 then most likly Jetstar will have its workers demanding that they get the same pay as the Qantas staff. Then this would stop Jetstar being a LCC and force up their costs and possible fares which would result in DJ being the only LCC is Australia


25 ZK-NBT : QF only lease 7 763's from BA! With the 7E7 if Boeing build a short range version I do think QF will be extremely interested in it to replace the 763.
26 Post contains images QANTAS747 : My opinion is that the 767's will inevitably be replaced by 7E7's, not neccesarily the short range ones either. I also believe that QWF are looking at
27 Miami1 : EK413 - The SEVEN (7) ex-BA 763s operate with a QF interior (30/214) and have done so since 2000. The galleys, however, are the BA 'ACE' ones. Much di
28 Aussie747 : Well, Having just come back from Melbourne to Sydney this afternoon on a 763, I can tell you the flight was on a very quick turnaround with the incomi
29 VirginFlyer : Aussie747 - why would the 7E7 necessarily be any faster in turnaround than the A330? V/F
30 EK413 : ZK-NBT QF only lease 7 763's from BA! Miami1 EK413 - The SEVEN (7) ex-BA 763s operate with a QF interior (30/214) and have done so since 2000. The gal
31 EK413 : ZK-NBT Just correcting my last message in regards to Qantas leasing 7 Ex-British Airways B763ER's. I have looked into the aircraft lease & your right
32 QantasAirways : Its great that the A330s are coming out. This means that Brisbane will see new aircraft and great service on routes into Asia, not just Europe and USA
33 Ryanair : What happens to the 763's will depend entirely on QF's domestic business plan. They'll buy the replacement which suits it the best. In my view it seem
34 Jupiter2 : Ryanair, you can expect to see Jetstar on the main trunkline routes (cityflyer) but don't expect a huge number of services. Cityflyer will continued t
35 Gigneil : No evidence whatsoever that the larger 7E7 will be quicker to turn than the 330. The 764 would have been the best CityFlyer choice. N
36 Greg : Gigneil....can you pls comment on my post in regard to the 332's economics on med range routes (it's in a seperate post).. Also, there is a great arti
37 Aussie747 : I guess if Boeing can deliver on QF specs on being able to offer quick turnarounds at domestic gates there should not be a problem in ordering the 7E7
38 EK413 : Aussie747 "I guess if Boeing can deliver on QF specs on being able to offer quick turnarounds at domestic gates there should not be a problem in order
39 Gigneil : Greg- Point me where you want me to read. N
40 Post contains links Tsv : I think these are what Greg is referring to : http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1323605/4/ http://www.aircraft-commerce.
41 Aussie747 : I should have corrected myself or made my self my clearly, Qantas does not have ENOUGH double gate aerobridges to operate its A333's through double br
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