AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7718 times:
the biggest scheduled planes that LGA gets is a Delta 767-400. I no that United used to opperate there DC-10s from LGA to O'Hare, My dad flew out of LGA to O'Hare on a DC-10. Actully the biggest planes that ever opperated LGA was the CLIPPER!!
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16647 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7520 times:
I think LGA only got the DC-10 10 series, not the 30 series. I think the 30 series was too heavy, not sure though.
A 747 could theoretically (sp?) land and take off on LGA's 7,000 ft runways, 747s often land on EWR's runway 11/29 on windy days. EWR's runway 11/29 is shorter than LGA's at 6,800 ft x 150ft, I've seen 747s land there within the last year.
11/29 was a favorite of the old PeoplExpress because it's right in front of where the old North Terminal used to sit, PE flew 747s from 11/29 all the time.
The only thing preventing 747s from using LGA are the runway ends which are actually piers (can't take the weight), and the gate area which was/ is too small for even a 767 let only a 747.
LGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1135 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7208 times:
As a long time employee at LGA (Since 1985) I can verify no 747 has ever
landed at LGA, nor 777, 330/340. There used to be lots of DC-10's, L-1011's,
A-300's an once and hopefully again an Airbus Beluga !
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7149 times:
I do remember as a kid when RFK was assasinated, they brought back one of the Air Force One series-a 707 to LGA for his funeral- I was only ten at the time, but I remember watching the funeral with my dad on TV and they brought him back to LGA for the trian ride to Massachusetts and my dad was amazed thet they went into LGA with a 707. And how my dad knew LGA! But, that was at least thirty-five years ago, so.......I've also heard that when Idlewild opened, they could divert to LGA with the jets, depending on certain things: weight, etc. They just couldn't take-off with a full payload. The terminal at LGA just wasn't set up for the jets ! This was right after the jets were introduced. I always thought my dad was wrong about that(the RFK thing) but, if so, one of the few times if is indeed the case.
Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
Big777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6930 times:
Cicadajet mentioned "There is a credible person who remembers his dad telling him that Pan Am brought a 747 to LGA during the initial "tour" back in '70 or whenever it was."
Wow, I was remembered when I was young kid first time to LGA between 1973 to 1974. I saw something Pan Am 747SP at LGA. I did not know anything about LGA has short runways. I was trying to flash back my mind in the past to picture of Pan Am 747SP at LGA. Maybe I was wrong. But I'm sure I saw it. Oh Man! Has anyone heard or seen Pan Am have landed at LGA in 1970's?
Bigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6736 times:
First, I'm excited that someone remembered my joke thread about the PIA 747 diversion.
Here is the picture I made of it:
Then MikePhotos (Mike McLaughlin) claimed his shot from inside the terminal of this:
As for the PanAm 747, I've heard this rumor too, and it is a popular one. I happened to sit down and interview LGA Gneral Manager Warren Kroeppel recently for a magazine article and asked him about it.
He said he never heard such a thing, and that it is highly doubtful.
I'll stand by him and say no, a 747 probably has never come into LGA.
The Delta 767-400 is the largest plane to every operate LGA.
The piers of the LGA runways create several problems, regardless of runway length. So much to the point that the A300 was forbidden to fly into LGA after a while becuase the narrow wheel base on the plane put so much concetrated pressure on the runways.
Yes, the Airbus Beluga did fly into LGA once as well, as confirmed by the LGA GM during the interview also.
If you have other questions, maybe I can help some.
Timz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6694 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6585 times:
Yeah, it would be nice to know what airliners were allowed into LGA over the years. In the 1950s there were no 1049s or DC-7-- but in the 60s EA/TW did bring 1049C/Gs in (but no scheduled DC-7s AFAIK). DC-10s are allowed there now, so is there any rule prohibiting Travolta landing there in his 707?
707s were scheduled into MKC's 7000-ft runway, even JT3C-powered 707-120s. But never into LGA AFAIK.
: As stated before, in the very early years of LGA, the Clippers 'O the Sea were everywhere. La Guardia was without the piers at the time, and had very
: It wasn't only the B314s that flew transatlantic out of LGA. BOAC-PAA-TWA were all there until 1949 or so. BOAC and PAA B377s had to use Idlewild, but
: According to the Convair 880 restoration site, the 880 they are restoring "in 1962 it set another record, which it still holds today, from LaGuardia A
: Wow.. thats interesting about the Convair jet at LGA.. I wouldn't doubt it, its just that it appeared there is little documentation of them ever havin
: You can forget about flying the 747 in and out of LGA for two reasons: 1. The runways are too short for safe 747 takeoffs and landings. 2. The concret
: RayChuang: It's not the runways are too short (i.e. I think SXM's runway is shorter or the same size), it all about the weight. If there were no piers
: The GM of LGA said the IL62 rumor seemed false, although he wasnt too sure. Didnt make sense to him.
: Yes, a 747 once landed on runway 4 at LGA. In fact, it's still there--AT THE BOTTOM OF FLUSHING BAY! I think one set of approach lights for 22 are mou
: "Hence, the first terminal at LGA was the MAT--Marine Air Terminal." Arend says the land terminal opened 12/39, the MAT 3/40.
: "The runways are too short for safe 747 takeoffs and landings" As mentioned LGA's runways are 7,000ft x 150 ft which is plenty for 747s to safely oper
: When I was a kid, I often flew Eastern L-1011s or A300s from LGA, but I don't recall ever seeing a 747 there, and in fact you cannot find a pic of thi
: The largest aircraft into LGA was/is the 767-400....which is bigger than the L-1011 and DC-10.
: Which begs the question.. does a half pax loaded, moderately fueled 767-400 outwiegh a near empty pax and low fuel 747 on LGAs tender & fragile pier?
: RiverVisual, if we went by the Database, we'd have to assume the concorde never landed in New Jersey at EWR or at Bangor Maine... events that happened
: I think another question would be is can a 747 land on runway 31 or 4 and stop before even getting near the pier? Isn't that LAHSO? How mcuh of the ru
: Runway 31 was 5900+ ft before the pier-- so theoretically possible for a 747. Turns out TWA moved their transatlantic flights from LGA to IDL in 4/51.
: I guess it would depend on how heavy the aircraft is upon landing. A lightly loaded 74 could come to a stop before reaching the pier section of the ru
: Muskegon Michigan had a UPS 747 for an airshow once. 6500ft... But a freighter is much more versatile than a regular 747.. There are no seats etc... L