Gr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1632 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2840 times:
AirTran has been very successful at getting really good deals on slightly used 717s. Only 41 or so of the current fleet of 73 has been delivered new from Boeing with the remainder previously operated by TWAA or intended for VuelaMex. Hawaaian ships start coming next month and there is always talk that we'll eventually get some or all of Midwest's and/or QantasLink's fleet. This has all been great for AirTran but has obviously not helped Boeing's orderbook.
I work for Southwest, but the views expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Southwest.
Rumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2520 times:
All the original options that Airtran had(50 firm with 50 options) are all gone. They gave some up when Boeing refinanced their debt back in 2000. Then they gave little more when they negotiated the TWA birds. And then finally the options that were left were all given back when Airtran bought 737s. By the end of the month they will have 73 717s. That is all that is left from the original orders. Any 717s they get next year will be from the new orders/options.
You have to remember that Airtran got a great deal for those airplanes. Some of those 717s were bought at ERJ/CRJ prices. The 717s they get next year are at prices no where near what they originally got them for. If you want more info its at there website in SEC filings I think in 10q's.