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Airtran 717 Options?  
User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2471 times:

Has Airtran still some options on the 717 left, and if so, when will they change them into firm orders?
Thanks

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User currently offlineFrontiers4ever From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Thats a good question, it all depends on how much they enjoy the 737's. I could be wrong though.

-Frontiers4ever



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User currently offlineGr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1606 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2384 times:

AirTran has been very successful at getting really good deals on slightly used 717s. Only 41 or so of the current fleet of 73 has been delivered new from Boeing with the remainder previously operated by TWAA or intended for VuelaMex. Hawaaian ships start coming next month and there is always talk that we'll eventually get some or all of Midwest's and/or QantasLink's fleet. This has all been great for AirTran but has obviously not helped Boeing's orderbook.

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

The options for the 717 will be converted to 73G.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Greg:

How do you know that?

None of us knows what FL is planning on doing...

However, if someone doesn't order soon, I fear for the Long Beach commercial line...



Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
User currently offlineCapt078 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

they do have a new order for 10 717s on the books. it was announced when the 737NG order was announced, and is still mentioned in the "company information" section of their website

User currently offline717fan From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 2017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Ther order is splited 6 firm and 4 options. But there must be some options from the original order left??

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

As the passenger numbers increase, the 717 becomes less useful for them (less seats=less revenue)...particularly at ATL where slots are getting harder to come by.

It would make more sense to have the larger planes since frequency will become an issue in the not so distant future.

I imagine Boeing will make it worth it for them to switch...


User currently offlineRumorboy From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

All the original options that Airtran had(50 firm with 50 options) are all gone. They gave some up when Boeing refinanced their debt back in 2000. Then they gave little more when they negotiated the TWA birds. And then finally the options that were left were all given back when Airtran bought 737s. By the end of the month they will have 73 717s. That is all that is left from the original orders. Any 717s they get next year will be from the new orders/options.

You have to remember that Airtran got a great deal for those airplanes. Some of those 717s were bought at ERJ/CRJ prices. The 717s they get next year are at prices no where near what they originally got them for. If you want more info its at there website in SEC filings I think in 10q's.


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