Lugonza_2001 From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 315 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5636 times:
Hi to all again!
If a little Airbus like the A319 has a range much smaller than the width of the Atlantic Ocean, and these planes are manufactured in Europe, How can you see a A319 flying in the USA? How can the plane reach that country from Europe? Stupid question? I hope it is not.
JBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3184 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5558 times:
A little known fact about Airbus is that 40% of an Airbus plane is built right here in the USA. However, final assembly is in Europe. Usually, the airplanes stop over in Iceland for fuel, or make a stop directly before the Atlantic crossing and then directly after in Bangor or Newfoundland.
Many a time, too, Airbus planes get painted in Canada.
N757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5522 times:
Some carriers add temporary fuel tanks. For example, I know Hawaiian Airlines added several fuel tanks into the cabin of their B717s for the flight from the U.S. mainland to Hawaii and DC-9s to get from Hawaii to the U.S. mainland.
"What we've got here, is failure to communicate." from Cool Hand Luke
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2243 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5278 times:
Same way you see a Saab340, ATR---, or any other "short" range acft. Extra tanks in the cabin OR multi stop segments across the pond. Say, New York to New Foundland to Iceland to Ireland and on for instance. That's how a lot of the stuff we sent Allies in WWll got over.
Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
Celticmanx From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5206 times:
By the way, the A319 flew nonstop from Tolouse to Fort de France in the Caribbean on its way to Los Cerritos in Chile for the 2000 airshow. I believe they established a record for the type, but not sure how many auxiliary tanks were installed.
Still the ACJ or Airbus Corporate Jet is based on the A319 model and it is manufactured in a way that sacrifice space and payload to increase range and that aircraft can reach up to 6,500 n.m.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17273 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4705 times:
"Say, New York to New Foundland to Iceland to Ireland and on for instance. That's how a lot of the stuff we sent Allies in WWll got over."
Some of the larger aircraft (ie. B-17s etc..) flew directly from the US to bases in Britain via Iceland, Greenland etc..
However fighters and smaller aircraft like the P-51 were flown to Newark Airport in New Jersey, the Army Air Corps had taken over Newark Airport during WWII. Newark Airport was an ideal location for the Army Air Corps because Newark Airport is adjacent to the Port of Newark which is the largest Port on the East Coast of the US, aircraft were flown from bases in the US to Newark Airport where the aircraft were placed on ships for transport to Britain.
Trident From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 484 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4374 times:
Flying "short range" airliners across the North and South Atlantic has been going on for decades. As someone has already mentioned, even small twins and single engined light aircraft can fly the Atlantic on deliveries. In my plane spotting days back in the 70s we used to make special trips to Shannon to see the "exotic" deliveries which often staged (and still do) through there.
Prestwick in Scotland is still a popular airport for delivery flights.
Magazines like "Aviation News" usually feature pictures of the more interesting delivery flights through these airports - 737s, Airbus A320s (and derivatives), ATR42/72s, Islanders, Twin Otters, Beech 1900s etc are not unusual.
Jumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4078 times:
Interesting fact I learned while crossing the Atlantic, ZRH to CDG to JFK on Delta 763, last week. While in mid flight over the Atlantic and experiencing a significant amount of turbulence, the pilot said over the PA that because the plane was over the Atlantic we were unable to change altitude and would therefore have to ride out the turbulence. This was a significant amount of turbulence but it was in a large jet. Uncomfortable but what the **** are you gonna do? At least it was in a large jet. But, I can only imagine what the ride must feel like in a A319 or a B737 or similar small jet and not being able to change altitude to alleviate the bumpiness. Which is another question, why is the ride over the Atlantic so much more turbulent?