FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3359 times:
If my understanding is right there are currently two vacant US gateways available to BA (CLT and SAN having being dropped by BA in '02 and '03 respectively) under Bermuda II.
If BA does not restart services to these destinations where do people consider it most likely BA (Or even VS) would consider applying to serve? (VS was able to launch services to LAS after BA dropped PIT).
RiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3271 times:
Realistically, I think BA will be dropping US destnations before it adds them. Just watch the news. As long as they are a target of Al Qaeda and are subject to random US government-ordered cancellation, detention, and inspection, I don't think there are going to be alot of people clamoring to fly BA (or any airline) between the US and Europe....I say this as a fan of BA and someone with a 6-figure Executive Club mileage balance.
FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3247 times:
Hmm, well if BA were to drop further US destinations, what happens when the time is right to restart them? Can VS challenge to operate dropped BA routes/new routes itself? Or does BA hold the rights still even though it's not operating them?
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 69
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
Ok, if AA has a big presence there, then it might make sense - and seeing that the SFO flights don't usually suffer from a lack of pax loads, it might make sense... somehow I've just never seen SJC as an airport interesting for flights from Europe - but, then again, I've never been to SJC, so I cannot really judge it...
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3210 times:
Leskova- I would guess if more flights were added to the Bay Area, they would be added to SFO. It has a few one world airlines (BA, AA, CX) and EI is supposed to start flights in 2004, so nothing to sneeze at there either. I would guess a 3x weekly LGW-SJC if that flight is started, or an additional 3x 744 is SFO gets increased service.
Lhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3123 times:
American Airlines serves Tokyo/Narita. One World as of recent has been very interested in the ongoing growth potential of One World hubs and or focus destinations. American Airlines has served Taipei and Paris from San Jose as well!
In addition American Airlines has been determined to have a stronger presence in the Bay Area. American resently aquired several new gates at San Francisco and is looking to expand there as well. Dont forget the West Coast has no connection to London Gatwick with the expception of Las Vegas in Virgin Atlantic!
If British Airways were to drop destinations the top to go would more than likely be Baltimore, and Charlotte.
Furthermore, dont count St. Louis out of the running with a large American Airlines presence be it regional or domestic can still effectively feed at least one daily London flight be it a 763 or 777!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33517 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2939 times:
I was interested to see in another thread regarding LH's decision to drop PHX that BA may follow suit - surprising given it is upgrading to a 744 from a 777 for the summer season.
Upgraded to a 747-400, but no longer daily with no more Wednesday flights. Still an overall capacity boost, however. On lower-yielding routes (and I am guessing the problem with PHX is yield, not loads), it is sometimes better to try to sell more lower-yielding seats in a bigger plane. Hence, why lower yielding destinations get high-density aircraft.
As739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6249 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2744 times:
Lhr001...what new gates did AA get here? News to me!
Rumor before 9/11 was that BA was looking at a 3rd flight, a 777 that would overnight here cause they were seeking a spot for overnight parking.
Its would be cool to see them swing a 777 into SJC, but I give that a slim chance.
"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
Sjc>sfo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2717 times:
I really can't imagine BA filling better than a 763 into SJC to be quite honest. Most of the South Bay is within reasonable catchment of SFO, especially for international travel. Also, AAs presence at SJC really is not that strong these days. Most of the routes make their money on O&D, and a very sizeable portion of the NRT traffic is O&D.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
With the economy getting better, I think several potential US destinations are cities that BA has cut recently, ie SAN, or CLT. I am confident we will see SAN back on the routemap by 2005 at the latest, barring another catastrophic downturn in the industry, or the entry of another carrier in the San Diego-Europe market.
Still, I think BA's most likely move will be additional frequency on some routes. We have already seen this on routes to LAX and IAH. As far as totally new cities, perhaps SJC, FLL, MSP, or LAS.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2600 times:
We think that there is a huge opportunity for BA to fly LGW-MSY. New Orleans is such a huge tourist destination for European travellers, and you cannot discount the "huge" presence of British immigrants in the bayou. I was told by my uncle's sister, who has a friend who works as a baggage handler for F9 that the deal is almost done...its just paperwork at this point. Can you imagine a BA 777, AF 777, and a LH 340 all parked at the gorgeous up-to-date terminal at MSY (later KE and JL will start service to ICN and NRT respectively)? Its going to be pretty.
Maiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 49
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2402 times:
British Airways will be out of San Diego till @ least 2005... Just about a month ago they still had 'BRITISH AIRWAYS' listed on the terminal sign over Harbor Drive but, now its gone. If they were coming back to SAN this year, I am sure they would have left it up there.