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User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Hello all, and a Happy New Year !

I was just thinking. ( I know I know. I actually do now and then) No comments on that from Piedmont Girl either.

Anyhow. Serveral people on here seem to be experts, or have worked for airlines, or have. Well you get the picutre.

When was the last time you flew on an airplane as a passenger? Or how long ago was it that you worked for an airline or do you work for an airline today?

Many Thanks.

Safe Flying  Smile

Me, I flew last week. As a flight attendant.

Just a little fun post. NO bashing or mean threads needed.




Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Well, I'm no expert and I've never worked for an airline - I've just been reading practically every article/magazine/book about flying that I could get my hands on for about the last 20 years... I've been on 311 flights in my 31 years and have flown 417148 miles in 41 days, 22 hours and 43 minutes on planes...  Big grin

My last flight was on 29 October 2003, the return from my third trip to Brazil last year...

But, on a somewhat sad note, I guess I'll not be flying as much in the next months and/or years: on 30 December 2003 I closed my travel agency down for good, so from now on I'll have to pay regular fares...  Sad



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User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Leskova:

I would say you have a fair and balanced view of the industry. I am sorry to hear about your business and hope that 2004 will bring you prosperity in a new direction.

Safe Flying  Smile



Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

Pssssssst.....the FlyGuy is always trouble when he starts thinking.....but don't tell anyone I said so! OK?!?  Big grin

The last time I worked as a flight attendant was during the late summer.

The last time I was on an airplane as a passenger was about three weeks ago. I just made a quick hop to CLT and back. I was meeting a friend who was coming in off her last trip before retiring. It was a nice showing, too. About 50 F/As, both active and retired, showed up to see her into her retirement. We'll be having a nice party for her later.


User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

Piedmont Girl,


Piedmont was great airline. They always were known to be a step above the rest. US Air got a deal when they got ahold of Piedmont. Like I have stated in an earlier post... It would have been great to have worked with you!


Happy New Year..



LHR001


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

PiedmontGirl - he won't hear it from me... Big grin

Flyguyclt - disregard the line I wrote above...  Big grin ... thanks for the wishes for 2004, the best to you, too, for this year (and beyond).

Fortunately, it seems that I've already found a new job, which was somewhat surprising judging from the state of things here in Germany at the moment - but all the applications I sent to airlines came back as "Thank you for your application, but...", so I'll be off to my other area of interest: computers (well, actually Storage Area Networks and Backup Solutions) - still, I would have liked to stay in the travel industry.

Anyhow - from the way 2003 went, I can now, with almost absolute certainty say: it actually can only get better...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Everyone just loves the PI Girl !


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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3175 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2408 times:
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Well, Im not even out of high school, so no, I dont work for an airline. But its something I have dreamed about for a long time, and I hope that by reading these forums, and magazines, and flying enough times that I learn enough about the industry to go into it with a bang.

I am no expert compared to the likes of other users on here, but I am often asked by friends and family about thier planes, or to find them a fare. Its comforting to know that when people I know think about airplanes, they think of me. That probably sounds really lame, but it somehow comforts me and makes me think that perhaps my calling is in the field of aviation.

Who knows where I will work, when I will start working or hell, where I am going to go to college. Its something I hate thinking about because I dont know how things will be in the future... but I guess thats the fun in living... You dont know where you will end up, you can only dream about what you want.

Even if I can only dream about working in the field, I have found that a dream is sometimes far more comforting then reality.

JBLU


User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Jblu:

Follow your dreams. It is still a very rewarding industry. You brought back memories with all your friends calling and asking you things. I have been flying for 17 years now. Four airlines later. I am still here and still enjoy my job and my co-workers. There are still many passengers out there that make my day too.

Safe Flying  Smile



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User currently offlineTransCon1976 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 30 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2406 times:

Flyguyclt,

I find it very encouraging that so many of the people who post on this site are under 21 and show such enthusiasm for our industry without ever having worked in it. What constantly amazes me and why I find truly dismaying are all of the postings from “SENIOR” people in our industry who truly haven’t a clue what a privilege it is to work in our industry moreover to still be employed and not furloughed.

This is my eighth year as a Flight Attendant and I first started my career Inflight with NWA in 1995. Our customers have changed, but the attitudes of many carriers and their employees have not. Fares are less than half of what they were then in most markets and all airlines are forced to lower their fares to be competitive or cease to exist.

I currently am an Inflight Crewmember with B-6 and can tell you that CUSTOMER SERVICE is the reason that our airline will succeed. DIRECTV and new planes are certainly a draw, but service will be the deciding factor for selecting a carrier when all of the fares are the same.

Having read many of your postings, you are truly an asset to NWA. I had the pleasure of flying with many friendly professional Flight Attendants at NWA, however I always found the prevalent attitude there that the customers should just accept what service is offered and not that the company should tailor their product to the customers need. I hope that the main reasons that WN/B6/F9 are such success stories isn’t mistaken by the legacy carriers as just based in fares but acknowledged as an overall provider of industry leading customer service.

…Just my 5 cents…


User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

TransCon1976:

Congrats on being with JetBlue. I hope you have a long and successful career with them. I was working a flight from LGA to DTW about a year ago. And serveral furloughed NWA flight attendants were returning from a JetBlue interview. Could that have been you? I find that most of the people on this web site truly love the business and use it to get more info and to share their passion. It is the ones who consistently shoot venom over the keyboards that make me scratch my head. I appreciate your compliments and look forward to sharing more threads with you in the future.

Safe Flying  Smile



Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3406 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

I have it a lot easier. I work on the airport side of things and I don't worry about delays, aisle seats, not enough peanuts, or cold coffee. I used to sweat that stuff at AA but I got out before it was too late(going postal). Anyways, if I was to ever get into that side again, I would definitely start some sort of charter operation. There is always some sort of seasonal service to be added to countless destinations and there is only so many planes that can be thrown at the temporary demand.

User currently offlineTransCon1976 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 30 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Flyguyclt,

Thank you for the kind words and best wishes. I left NWA in August of 2001 to join B6…talk about timing! My class at NWA wasn’t furloughed and just got a line back for January at least in DTW. Some were displaced however.

This job definitely has its challenges and does tax your nerves at times. Some passengers are just plain rude and there are other that can never be satisfied no matter what accommodations you make for them. HOWEVER, it is our job to provide service and to act with composure and professionalism. Safety is why the FAA requires Flight Attendants and I’m sure that even the people that have posted the nastiest comments on this site are qualified to in this area, BUT service is also a requirement and a necessity.

Those who so truly hate people and flying and whine about everyone and do disgusting things and treat passengers in a deplorable manner shouldn’t be protected by their unions from disciplinary actions. Having 35 years ate NWA in SEA or 40 years at UA in ORD is NOT justification for being a deplorable human.

OK off my soapbox…Bye the way, kudos for NWA for posting a profit last quarter!

Cheers!


User currently offlineSlamclick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Not an expert by any means, but I know what I know. Airlines and other entities have found my knowledge useful. I've earned a fair amount consulting and writing.

I've been privileged to earn my living in this field for 39 years. Retire this year and move on to another company in another capacity for more of it. Looking forward to that too.

I'm a pilot with ATP and half a dozen type ratings and have some additional ratings no longer relevant to my plans. Licensed dispatcher. Been operations manager at one company and director of systems control at another. Trained newhires and upgrades and wannabes (who probably now are) And there has never been a time when I could not learn from those who worked around me, those who worked for me and even my own students.

I learn things every time I come to this forum and I am grateful for that. Those of you in the industry, continue to respect your profession. Uphold your standards. At the end of the day you will take pride in that - you were a professional.

There was for me and there will be for you - fun and satisfaction along the way.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

I'm the lead designer/AI programmer on an airline management game... which means I am surrounded by stacks of books with enticing titles such as "Handbook of Airline Strategy" (handbook my ass... it's hardbound, 12x8 and about 400 pages!), "Handbook of Airline Economics" (same problem!) and other such delightful subjects.  Nuts

Airline expert? Nah... I just play one in the computer gaming industry!  Smokin cool



Dave Mark - Intrinsic Algorithm - Reducing the world to mathematical equations!
User currently offlinePiedmontGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

TransCon1976:

I currently am an Inflight Crewmember with B-6 and can tell you that CUSTOMER SERVICE is the reason that our airline will succeed. DIRECTV and new planes are certainly a draw, but service will be the deciding factor for selecting a carrier when all of the fares are the same.

That is absolutely the truth. If you've got three airlines operating between A and B with a fare of $149, the passenger is going to pick the one that has the best customer service -- hands down. Someone might not remember the Blue Chips or the DirecTV, but s/he will surely remember how s/he was treated and made to feel. The importance of that cannot be stressed enough.

Lhr001:

Piedmont was great airline. They always were known to be a step above the rest. US Air got a deal when they got ahold of Piedmont. Like I have stated in an earlier post... It would have been great to have worked with you!

Thank you! What a lovely thing for you to say!  Smile






User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

PI Girl:

Is love in the air?


 Innocent



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User currently offlineNonrvsmdmf From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Me airline expert?? I lived and watched my dad through 33 years
of it. Thats why I am in corp aviation. Not saying I am an
expert though.



I did not forget...I just misplaced the thought...
User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3175 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2221 times:
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Flyguyclt,

Thank you for those inspiring and kind words. Its nice to know that there is more to the internet then sick pediphiles and frauds. Of recent, Ive been more aware of that "respected users" thing, and I can see why people have added you to their list, and so welcome to mine.

JBLU


User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Many Thanks for the compliment.

 Smile



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User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Well, who could not love PiedmontGirl???

All of us aviation enthusiasts just got to love her! As I already stated in an earlier post, she´s incredible!!!  Smile

I am a Flight Attendant (Lufthansa company group/Condor)!

I came home from a Seychelles trip on december 30, and I´ll be leaving for a 24 hour trip to LRM today (january 3)!

The last time I was deadheading was in november HAM-FRA!

My last time as a paying full fare passenger was shortly after 9/11 on DL! (FRA-ATL-TUL-ATL-PHL-ATL-FRA)

My last time as an ID passenger was in may 2003 on LH! (FRA-YYZ-FRA)

I´m just planning a trip to NYC, ID on UA and visiting my family in KY in july full fare on DL!

Happy New Year, All the best,

L1011Lover


User currently offlinePilotpip From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3139 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

While slightly above the 21 limit mentioned earlier, I have had a love for airplanes as long as I can remember and I'm persuing my dream right now working through my ratings. I grew up about 3 miles from STL and can remember hearing TWA's L1011s starting up at night. The windows on my house rattled. I saw Concorde from my front porch(it came here once for a charter). To pay for this expensive habit I'm working as a fueler at STL. I graduate next year and hope to find a job instructing somewhere to build time.

My PPL ride was first scheduled for 9/12/01. Needless to say, it didn't happen that day, or for 6 more months. Have the down times lessened my enthusiasm or drive? NEVER!!



DMI
User currently offlineTransCon1976 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 30 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Best of luck to you Pilotpip! I admire your fortitude and perseverance. I'm sure with your determination and positive attitude you will go far in this industry no matter how the business climate evolves.

PiedmontGirl you rock! What a fabulous airline it was!


User currently offlineSprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Well, I have been working for Southwest for the last 9 years.
Last flight I took was at 12 noon PST today, GEG-BOI. Wife,kid, and I flew up there last night just to go somewhere. It was SNOWY there.
Last time as a fare paying was when National Airlines (N7) had their $25 fares a couple years ago. Went LAS-LAX.
As far as expert, I would call me "highly knowledgeable". I have been keen to the airline industry for the last 28 years. And during that time have accumulated a timetable collection of over 3,000 from over 300 different airlines. I have also read many an airline magazines.
So, as you can tell, I LOVE the airline business!!!!


User currently offlineAirlinebiznut From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 82 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Hi Flyguyclt:

Well, when I was 9 years old Eastern Airlines invited me to their Alexandria VA, Sales Office (DCA) when they found out that I was making reservations for my dad and his business associates as a hobby from my little travel agency set up at home. Eastern treated me like a star with an article in the Falcon and then in Travel Weekly and they even invited my family to the retirement ceremony at DCA of the Electra on its' last shuttle flight to LGA. My love of the airline industry was in full swing. It continues to today obviously.

Now I have been with AA for 17 years and just came in today having just done a wonderful 777 turn around from Miami to DFW. I do this trip all month. It was great to have passengers today that were so excited about the aircraft and all of it's features in F/C. I fly an LAX trip on the 777 on Sunday.


25 Kohflot : Now.. is that Rally Caparas guy REALLY an "ATC Expert?
26 Flyguyclt : It sure does seem that a lot of us on here were the family travel agent. I used to sit in my room at home with binoculars and watch the arrivals at CL
27 GlobeTrekker : Well I started to work with a groundhandler (OGDEN/Menzies) in Aruba 7 years ago, and we handled all KLM flights wearing KLM uniform. When KLM increas
28 JJeff : OK I admit it. I was the family (and friends' and neighbors') travel agent too. Collected airline schedules by systematically going through the yellow
29 ElkGrove : Next month will be my 30th year in the industry. I started out at Braniff in 1974. I came fresh out of grad school into their finance department. I st
30 InnocuousFox : I suppose this whole thread is based on the finer question of "what is an airline 'expert'?"
31 Post contains images StevenUhl777 : I'm not an expert by any means...! I grew up in a UA family, so most of my knowledge is UA-based, though I've learned a lot about the industry as a wh
32 RogerThat : Last Flight as Pax: New Years Eve eve, AA LAX-DFW First Flight as Pax: 1969, PSA LAX - SAN. Child's fare $4.00 oneway I'm a second generation airline
33 MoodyBlues : What is that quote from the movie "Trainspotting"? "He knows an awful lot about Sean Connery" "I hardly think that qualifies" I'm not an airline exper
34 Bistro1200 : I was furloughed after 9/11, but now I'm back. I will soon have a graduate degree in aviation and that will compliment my 3 FAA certificates. Dad was
35 Post contains links and images Flyguyclt : WOW! These stories are fantastic. This was kind of the purpose of this thread. I was just curious as to who really knows about the business or who jus
36 SWAbubba : Not an expert, but... I came to love the airlines from another direction than most here, I loved flying first and foremost so I joined the Navy and be
37 Post contains images Adam T. : I'm by all means no airline expert, though I do seem to know much more about it than most of my friends and family I was born in Houston and my love f
38 Fjnovak1 : Well, I wouldn't profess to be an aviation expert but I did go through college as the official travel spring break reservation planner for me and all
39 Post contains images Flyguyclt : Fjnovak1 and Adam: Thank you both for your replies. I guess the reason I did this thread is just to see what people know out there. Or, to get some ba
40 SWAbubba : AdamT, I graduated from East Meck in 1988. I've been to Gastonia many times... Best of luck to you becoming a pilot- I really can't imagine doing anyt
41 Post contains images Leskova : FlyGuyClt, I think I'll have to try to get to AMS or FRA, when you have your next layover on this side of the Atlantic... you do also fly internationa
42 Post contains links and images Elwood64151 : Okay, since there are far too many posts to read, I'll just say what I've done: Since I was seven years old, I've read just about every book I could f
43 Flyguyclt : EL: It is too bad NJ did not make it. I think with some tweeking it could have gone the distance. Happy New Year.
44 Post contains images Adam T. : Thanks FlyGuyClt, Yeah I'm not the ranting and raving type of person when it comes to aviation.....only when I absolutely think that its necessary. Us
45 MidnightMike : I worked for Nippon Cargo Airlines for 5 years, worked for Polar Air Cargo for about 3.5 years, and I am not working for Alteon Training been here fo
46 Prinair : My grandparents and aunt owned a couple of travel agencies in SJU and MIA. I started helping there when I was 10...remember the old OAGs! I went to Sy
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