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MEA.... Back To CPH Finally  
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 7 months 10 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

Here's the latest news:

CPH to BEY: 01:00 06:10 ME226 A330
BEY to CPH: 20:30 23:59 ME225 A330



Great news.. I wonder what Snowflake is planning to do now




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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 9 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

when is this happening?


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User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

I wonder what's the source of your news yegbey,I'm totally not up to date!
More info needed..

MEA310



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User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 810 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 hour ago) and read 2740 times:

Why are they staying 14 hours at CPH?? feels like a great waste to have a TA time of 14 hours.also it would be more likely that they use a 321 then a 330 on that route.


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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months ago) and read 2730 times:

So that the flight and cabin crew meet minimum rest times.BA and AF do the same to Luanda where there is only 1 weekly flight.

User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months ago) and read 2668 times:

Two flights a week starting in June. I think this is probably only for ths ummer season.

They will only stay one hour at CPH.. not 14 hours.

Flights leave BEY on Tuesdays and Saturdays at 8:30 PM and return Wed and Sundays at 1:00 AM and arrive in BEY just after 6:00 AM


User currently offlineAzmi From Lebanon, joined Nov 2003, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Can somebody please tell what are MEA's planned destinations for 2004?
It certainly feels good to see MEA return to it's former glory.



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User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 810 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

my misstake ,
thought its said BEY to CPH on the first line



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User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

i'm starting to worry about MEA, with all this talk about Dakar, Copenhagen, Sao Paulo, Cotonou, Conakry, Libreville and Khartoum.
Is MEA management really ready for this?


User currently offlineDC9 From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

Copenhagen should be no reason to worry about as the Snowflake flights of S04 sold out extremely fast and demand is apparently still skyhigh.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

let's hope good thoughts, but changing all the flights around and introducing many new stations is not for the faint of heart.

User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

The one interesting thing that I noticed with changing their schedules is that, they will have four flights from DXB to BEY with a 90 minute convenient connection with MEA's flights to West Africa.

The flights to West Africa depart at 2:05 in the morning currently, but they will be shcnged to 12:35 in the afernoon this spring/summer


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

MEA does big business between DXB and West Africa, but that is going to be challenged this month with 4 weekly LOS-DXB-ACC flights on EK. MEA won't be able to compete with that.
What they should do is get CPH flights to connect with DXB and other spots in the Gulf as there is no Gulf flights to CPH


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

The CPH flights will be seasonal. This is my guess!
While Snowflake will be operating year round.

I am not sure there's a big demand from Scandinavian countries to the Gulf or vice versa. Otherwise, you would have seen EK jump in there long time ago. The only service to Scandinavia from DXB was to ARN with Air Lanka (But that service was strictly for the ethnic community in Sweden). And it doesn't operate anymore.

What surprises me though is that MEA is planning to operate the A330. If there's this kind of demand, you wonder why they stopped the service in the first place. Also, with the A330's operating to CDG, LHR, DXB, CPH and the West African routes, it's pretty clear to me that any plans to expand service to GRU or even add West African routes look very grim. Where are the Aircraft to support such new service. But I am very optimistic noentheless

I still haven't seen the flights to DUS (which MEA operated last summer). But maybe, it'll show up ion the schedules soon.


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

the last time i looked at mea's website there were no flights logged for the summer anywhere. has that changed? where are these schedules listed?
i wouldn't be surprised if dus were dropped. there is little consistency at mea


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

You can't find those schedules on the MEA site yet.



User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

These new routes announcements are a little frightning as I haven't read or either seen on TV MEA's future plans.If MEA is to operate these new routes shouldn't they have placed an order by now?What if it's a lease from another airline??
YEGBEY,you still haven't mentioned the source of your information...!?

Regards from Beirut,

MEA310




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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

MEA310,

Here's one source that you can access.

Go to lufthansa.com and then go to timetable.

There you can check all schedules for only regulalry scheduled airlines. You will find the CPH flights there

cheers,


User currently offlineDC9 From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Found the flights in Amadeus as well

User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

i found them, too.

IT APPEARS that ME), Brazil">MEA is adding these additional flights by re-adjusting their west african schedules.
currently, their 3 weekly flights to west africa arrive at about 0800 and don't leave until 0500 the next day - absurd! brand new a330s sitting on the ground 24 hours?

however, to address this, ME), Brazil">MEA - according to LH timetable - will operate 4 weekly flights to west africa in the summer with a 1-hour turnaround in abj - probably a common base to accomodate the crew. because the flights leave BEY at about 1230 and return about 0600 the next day, they have torn apart their DXB schedules to have flwg DXB skeds

ME426 1234567 BEYDXB 0845 1300
ME428 1-3-5-7 BEYDXB 2030 0045+1

ME429 12-4-6- DXBBEY 0845 1105
ME427 1234567 DXBBEY 1355 1615

there are PROBLEMS here, however.

[1] EK's 4 weekly ACC-LOS-DXB is going to kill ME), Brazil">MEA's position in the market, so why rip schedules apart to accomodate passengers who won't be there?

[2] BEYDXB at 0845? Flights will be empty,

[3] BEYDXB at 2030 will be empty as well. Currently ME), Brazil">MEA has BEYDXB flights at 1630 and EK at 2045, so ME), Brazil">MEA is able to hold its own with a distinct schedule with a much better arrival time. In the summer, ME & EK will depart at the same time with the same lousy arrival time in DXB - perfect to connect to EK's flights to everywhere, but lousy if you are actually going to DXB and want to connect business the next day.

[4] DXBBEY at 0845? Flights will be empty.

Only good improvement will be DXBBEY at 1355. If it left 1 hour earlier it would connect to the CDG flight, but hey! ME), Brazil">MEA doesn't need to improve its terrible loads, does it? (I am aware that EK and AF have daily DXBCDG nonstops, but a connection leaving at 1255 would be able to lure some passengers).

Ick! And then they are sending the planes to CPH? Another 1 hour turnaround there, more opportunities for delays!

Unless more planes are ordered and put on the line, there is no way DKR and GRU can be served - unless A330s are taken off CDG and LHR - both VERY profitable in the summer.


User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

Back in November I posted a thread about Snowflake selling out on all of its flights in June 2004, from CPH to BEY. Since then, a few more dates have sold out, without any sign from Snowflake of adding additional service.

These flights that MEA is offering could be a jump on Snowflake for not adding the additional service. Very aggressive strategy! I could have seen it coming from either SK or MEA, so im glad that MEA made the move first.

MEA321



MEA321
User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

I also have news about MEA's fleet expansion. On my flight from BEY to LHR this morning I had a chat with the F/O in the front galley of the A330 before the flight. I asked him what new planes we can expect for MEA. He told me that first of all MEA is committed to Airbus, but limited to leases for the upcoming summer. He told me two A330-200s will be joining the fleet, in addition to two A321s. He then stuck his head into the cockpit to reconfirm the information from the captain!

Unfortunately the jumpseat was taken by a newly hired pilot! (I didn't even think they were hiring pilots).

MEA321



MEA321
User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Interesting news MEA321,and btw,hamdella al saleme!
Could the A340 option be 100% ruled out now with the news MEA321 brought in?Do you think 5 A330s will be able to cover properly the newly proposed routes,besides the current LHR,CDG,seasonal DUS???

MEA310



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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

The rumors about the A330s have been around for some time but the A321s are a surprise to me.

2 A330s and 2 A321s will give almost 50% increased capacity to MEA. Does this mean more routes will be anounced other than the ones already mentioned here?



User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5980 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

If the weather complies, it should give some very nice night shots at CPH - though I'm a bit worried about the 1 hour turnaround, which isn't much for an A330. But then again, there's hardly any movement at those hours, so it wouldn't be too much of a hassle.

Call me a festival freak, but if CPH is landing on the 22's, there will be a good chance that the passengers of those flights will get a nice view of 50-60.000 people dancing & jumping around in a field Big grin (I've seen several aircrafts fly exceptionally low, compared to what they usually do, over Roskilde, where I live)


25 ME AVN FAN : AF022; MEA flights to West Africa and SAO are far better for customers in Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Cyprus and Turkey than EK-flights which results in mil
26 Yegbey01 : MEA321, Good to have you back here safe and sound. Great news about the possible addition of the A330s and the A321s. Although, I had hoped and still
27 Mozart : A question I have here: Where do all the CPH pax come from??? As far as I know, there are only few Lebanese in Scandinavia, at least not enough to ful
28 Yegbey01 : It may well be that MEA may have sold some tickets in advanace to tour operators. The flights will not offer any real connections since they arrive in
29 MEA321 : MEA and Copenhagen is my area of excitement, moreso than Canada or America since I was born and raised in Copenhagen. Knowing the communities there, I
30 AF022 : i'm still worried about the new BEYDXB times - a daily 0845 schedule? and less than daily evening? people (wisely) want to stay in BEY for as long as
31 Yegbey01 : AF022, I disagree again. MEA will be able to fill the seats. What I would be worried about though, is how would MEA join Skyteam with this schedule th
32 CPH-R : I think that MEA will also be able to pick up people who would otherwise spend a day in, say, Paris or London. If they play their cards right and add
33 AF022 : high revenue business is not going to want to spend a day anywhere. they want to get home as soon as possible. flights may be fillable in the summer,
34 MEA321 : Everyone seems to be overlooking the fact that MEA is still in the process of growing and developing into a major airline in its region. I am comforta
35 Yegbey01 : MEA321, The summer schedules will be such that MEA flights to DXB leave at 8:45 in the morning daily in addition, 4 flights a week will leave BEY at 2
36 Post contains images AF022 : I am comfortably sure that MEA and its fine management is in the process of making sure that their flights fit the bill for both tourists and business
37 BA : MEA does big business between DXB and West Africa MEA's West African routes serve the large Lebanese community and that's it. They are not meant to co
38 AF022 : so we agree to disagree? the ONLY reason it appears MEA changed the DXB flights was to connect to/from West Africa. DXB is VERY IMPORTANT for LOS flig
39 TR : Will operate seasonal nonstop service from Beirut to Copenhagen from 01Jun04. The weekly services will operate on Tue & Sat with an A330-200 through 0
40 Vadheim : Copenhagen attracts many airlines because it is the major Scandinavian hub and an important North-European hub. Most Scandinavians (20 millions) use C
41 BA : I wish this new CPH service was year-round rather than just summer seasonal. Although I don't think this route could sustain 2x weekly A330 throughout
42 Yegbey01 : If they lease new aircarft, (which they will by the looks of it), what will happen to this "youngest fleet in the world" thing? If they buy the planes
43 BA : Winter demand to BEY is very weak!! While it is the weakest in the winter, I was surprised. It's picked up. If Lebanon promotes winter tourism more, t
44 AF022 : how about sending winter aircraft to SSH, bringing europeans to the beaches of Egypt? CPH could probably work year-round if arrival at CPH weren't at
45 MEA310 : That's what I once mentioned in the thread about serving GRU;if the planes are not to be bought or even leased brand new,then what will happen to the
46 AF022 : i used to work a lot in Brazil and the government would regularly have these big brouhahas with other countries promising all sorts of cooperation bla
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